The Big Gay Myth of Masculinity in Sports, with Mississippi's Own Jay Jurden
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What does Jay Jurden think about masculinity in sports?
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out, presented by eBay Live. I am Pablo Torre, and today you're going to find out what this sound is. Ole Miss versus Miami. Someone was like, who do you think is going to win? I was like, the Coke dealers. That's who's going to win. I don't know. Bolivians and Colombians. Right after this ad.
I feel like you do a bit of the math that I do sometimes, which is, how much do I sports it up right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And your dial on that goes so much higher than I think people are ready for. Pablo, it can go from full-on, like, you know, Hell's Kitchen gay, which is close to zero, all the way to, like, if I go to Oxford for a game, if I go to Tuscaloosa for a game, I'm turning it all the way up to SEC. Full SEC is a dangerous... I don't think New York City in general is prepared for full SEC. I think... that if people understood how much energy, time, money, and cultural identity was rooted in these 18-year-old black kids across the Southeast, they'd be like, oh, it's the 1840s again.
I mean, these young, strong black men in the South are propping up economies. I mean, you've done the research. You know, a lot of these SEC football coaches are the highest paid public officials in their state. The SEC football is so important that Tommy Tuberville is a senator. Okay. And he wasn't a great coach. Tommy Tuberville is being asked questions about Iran right now because he kind of went 500. Exactly. Tommy Tuberville is being asked about Iran, and he goes, Iran? Well, we do a play-action pass, and they'll respect the run. Like, that's what's happening right now. That's the world we live in. And I think when people are kind of surprised by it, it's because, like,
How does Jay Jurden navigate sports culture as a queer comedian?
I was born and raised in Mississippi. I spent the majority of my life in Mississippi and Alabama, and then I moved to New York in 2015. So I know how to like really sort of swing it in a very sort of I think American way. That's some of the most American shit ever. You just sort of like rolled your eyes and sort of like, you know, shook your head a bit when you said something that is so sincere. And I feel that all the time, which is that sports is my passport to everything else. Oh my God. Whenever people kind of dismiss sports, I go, you are dismissing one of the cultural prisms that people filter everything through. Everything. Everything. The only way you can reach a certain demographic of young men is you have to filter it through sports.
The reason Shane Gillis is the most popular stand-up comedian right now is because he's a boy from Philly who loves Notre Dame and who loves the birds. He loves the Eagles. There's a world where people go, why do these people fall in love with these men? And you go, oh, it's because there's these cultural signifiers that let them know you're part of this in-group and we're going to have conversation and we're going to have jokes that only we can get and it amasses this following. There's a reason why people love Stavros. They go, oh, I love him so much because he's so funny, but also he reminds me of every one of my friends from Baltimore who love the Ravens. There's this connection that I think sometimes people dismiss, even queer people, but then queer people realize that we just do it for divas.
I love sports. I love sports. And the reason I'm a Yankees fan is because the Yankees are great, but also because Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey, dated Derek Jeter, we don't get the album Butterfly without Derek Jeter. And that, to me, is why he's one of the most important baseball players of all time. Because he broke my rock carry's heart and we got my all. We got the roof. We got Babydoll. We got Breakdown. I grew up a Yankee fan.
What role does SEC football play in Southern culture?
I grew up a Derek Jeter fan against all now sophisticated sports, like nuanced sort of perspective that I aspire to have. I grew up like such a normie. He's winning. He's the winner. He's the captain. He's my captain. Yeah, he's the captain, my captain. There's this beautiful also synergy between Mariah Carey and Derek Jeter because he represented kind of Manhattan and the Bronx and then she represented Long Island.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What does Jay Jurden think about masculinity in sports?
0:00–1:48
2
How does Jay Jurden navigate sports culture as a queer comedian?
1:48–3:42
3
What role does SEC football play in Southern culture?
3:42–5:31
4
How does Jay Jurden view the relationship between sports and identity?
5:31–7:05
5
What insights does Jay Jurden provide on the impact of queerness in sports?
7:05–9:12
6
How does the conversation shift to the representation of LGBTQ+ athletes?
9:12–10:37
7
What are the implications of masculinity in modern sports?
10:37–11:55
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How does Jay Jurden relate personal experiences to broader societal issues?
11:55–48:22
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