We Visited Death Row for the Super Bowl. You Can Help Save This Fan's Life. (PTFO Vault)

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Pablo Torre 0:01
Hey, Pablo here. And I just need to tell you that today we're re-airing what might be the most important episode we've ever done on this show, which is the story of Charles Flores.

What is the urgent situation regarding Charles Flores?

Pablo Torre 0:13
And the reason we're re-airing this episode with this new intro that you're listening to from me is out of a truly desperate sense of urgency. Because on June 15th, the U.S. Supreme Court released the results of its June conference. And the Supreme Court officially denied the petition filed by Charles and his attorneys and effectively refused to review his case without any comment, which means that Charles and his attorneys have exhausted all available legal avenues on both the state and federal levels, which we'll explain more about in this episode and in the postscript afterwards. But the thing I need you to know right now is that there is a very different petition that you can sign that would be extremely helpful to Charles Flores.
Pablo Torre 0:55
And so we're going to link it in the show notes right now. It's not going to take very long for you to check out. Of course, time is of the essence, as you'll see. Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre, and today we're going to find out what this sound is. Sooner or later, the truth's going to come out, and I'm going to have that opportunity to see life after this.
Pablo Torre 1:45
Back when I was a magazine reporter, and this was many years before I locked myself inside the PTFO studio in New York City, I loved spending time on the road, just driving around this country. But one place I had never been before is a town in East Texas called Livingston. Livingston is the home of the Polunsky Unit, a supermax prison that is otherwise known as Texas's Death Row. You may recall that we sent PTFO correspondent Dave Fleming to this place back in October 2024 because we wanted Dave to find out about the apparently enormous role that football fandom plays for the inmates here. The men whose last words before state execution sometimes even wind up being shout outs to their favorite NFL team, which in a sense says everything.
Pablo Torre 2:39
But today, more than a year later, and ahead of Super Bowl Sunday, it is my turn to meet our guide to a fandom that is truly unlike any other. A remarkable inmate by the name of Charles Don Flores. A person you can hear right now as he's walking down the hall to the Polonsky unit's visitation room. This surreal place with a painting of Cookie Monster on the wall behind me, an eerie Star Wars mural across the way, and a thick pane of glass which forever separates the inmates from their kids, their family, their visitors. Charles Flores spends almost all of his life at the Polonsky Unit in solitary confinement. How you doing, brother? You good? Charles. But now, as we'll explain... He is running out of time, even though he never should have ended up in here at all.
Pablo Torre 3:50
It occurs to me that you spend 23 hours a day in solitary. Yeah. And so you have an hour with me, and I am really grateful that you're taking the time. Thanks so much for caring and for coming down here and for taking interest. and my situation and, you know, because it's not just about me, it's about all the guys down here, right? I'm just one person out of, you know, almost 200 people down here. But the other reason I'm here, of course, is you're the Pablo Torre Finds Out official Dallas Cowboys correspondent. That's right. And so the first question that I have for you is how about them Cowboys, Charles? Oh, man, how about them Cowboys? What happened? Oh. I think that they weren't able to adjust on defense.
Pablo Torre 4:40
I think it come down to they had some good players. But they didn't have the right players to fit the scheme that Iberflues was running. And then when they realized that and they tried to change it, it was like the position coaches didn't have them ready. And in the biggest moments, they failed against Detroit, you know?
Gretchen Swen 5:02
Yeah.
Pablo Torre 5:03
They were playing 10 yards off the wide receiver, off of Jamison Williams, the fastest dude on the field. You're going to give him 10 yards? He was gone. They were covering him with the safety.

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