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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hello and welcome to Page 94. My name is Andrew Hunter-Murray and I'm here in the Private Eye offices about to interview the shortlist for this year's Paul Foot Award in memory of the late, great campaigning investigative journalist Paul Foot. So let's see which is the first of the stories to be shortlisted for this year's award.
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Joe Duggan, reporter for the iPaper. Joe, what's the story that's brought you to the Pulford Award this year?
Since 2024, we've been reporting on cases of silicosis in young workers cutting a stone known as quartz or engineered stone, which is a stone that's become very popular in makeovers for people who are doing their kitchens up. So...
The basic headline seems to be fashionable kitchen work tops can actually be leading to serious illness or even death among the workers who are cutting it.
Yeah, and we don't yet know the scale of the problem in this country, but it's the most popular stone for people having kitchens and everyone's got a kitchen. So we know of more than 50 cases so far, but it's likely to be significantly higher than that. Somebody I know works in the industry and contacted me and said, you know, have you heard of this stuff, engineered stone quartz?
You know, he was refusing to work with it. He said it's too dangerous. I don't want to put my workers at risk. They've just banned it in Australia. What's the situation here? Yeah.
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Chapter 2: What is the story behind silicosis in young workers?
I'd never heard of it. I didn't know what it was. I knew what silicosis was. It's an occupational lung disease, which sort of historically has always been, you know, people are working in mining, construction industry.
um have developed silicosis usually after quite a number of years of exposure to dust from cutting stone what we found with the cases of silicosis in the guys who were cutting these kitchen workshops is they were starting to develop it very young and after not very long exposure off you know a couple two or three years in some cases yeah
So they were getting ill and dying younger than historically workers have done when they've contracted silicosis from cutting stone.
What is the substance that you referred to at the top there? Did you say engineered quartz? Engineered stone, yeah.
It's also known as quartz, and it's become the most popular stone that people have installed in their kitchens when they want a new worktop. It's cheaper than granite and marble, but it looks attractive as well. Is it a composite? Yeah, it's man-made. It's a man-made stone. It has a very high level of silica in it. Cutting silica
exposes workers who aren't using who aren't being provided with proper safety protection to dust and the higher the silica level the higher the risk to the worker who's cutting it and in case in the case of quartz it can be very high 95 percent silica content whereas granite and marble for example i think the numbers for either are like 30 percent much less Can I check?
This is workers in the UK.
So how we started to get involved in the story was my friend asked me, what's the situation here? And I really didn't know where to start. So I just looked up all the top respiratory consultants in the UK who deal with occupational lung disease and just started ringing them up to find out, are there any cases of silicosis here? from quartz.
And eventually that led me to Dr. Jo Feery, who's a doctor at the Royal Brompton Hospital, who is the main doctor looking after the UK's first quartz silicosis patients. So she told me in January 2024, yes, we have started to see the first cases. They've developed in the last few months.
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Chapter 3: How does engineered stone contribute to health risks?
So am I right in understanding that there are precautionary measures you can take, there are protective masks, there are things that you can do to mitigate the risk of silica and of silicosis?
The main one is, they call it wet cutting, which is using water suppressing tools to stop the dust from developing. What we found is the profile of the guys who, and it is all men who are getting it,
who are getting silicosis they're working for firms who are just not following these safety rules and just leaving them exposed they tend to say as i say they tend to be very very young um a lot of them are migrant workers who are just being exploited basically
Because it's slightly more expensive to use the wet cutting method that makes it a lot safer.
Yeah, the firms that they're working for are just cutting corners and not providing their workers with the correct tools.
Do you know roughly how many people are working in this industry or who might be exposed to this?
It's been difficult to get sort of figures on it, but there's been a bit of analysis done recently. And that analysis has estimated there's around 7,000 workers working in the industry. We're working on a story based on that analysis at the minute this week. So the latest figures so far are that there are diagnosed 55 workers with silicosis since mid-2023. At least four have died.
But the doctors do believe that there's probably a significant number more that are out there that haven't been diagnosed yet. Who is meant to be regulating this? The Health and Safety Executive.
Okay. And I imagine that fairly early on in reporting the story, you asked them about it.
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