Chapter 1: What are the benefits of school holiday heroes?
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Hello, you're listening to Parenting Hell with... OK, Joe, say Rob Beckett.
Say Rob Beckett. Don't we? Nope. Maybe. Say Rob Beckett.
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Chapter 2: How does Tinie Tempah balance parenting and his career?
From near Reading. P.S. Her name's Reem. Yeah, like Dreamy. Like Joey Essex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He invented the word Reem. Her name's Reem. I have vague memory that these are more likely to be read out if sent early in the morning, so I've scheduled a 4 a.m. send. Hope it works. Fair play. Fair play. Absolutely. Absolutely. I didn't know you could schedule a send.
We're not going to say who it was, but heartbreakingly, there was another email, but I couldn't make the MP3 work, so... Katie Maynard. Oh, don't do that to her. Do you know what? Katie Maynard, send it in again. Yeah. Because I felt terrible. And I think we need some more children rather than adults. Yeah, we're done with the adults now.
Also, teenagers' voices are surely deeper than when we were teenagers. Oh, it's mental, isn't it?
What's going on? You mug. And that's 13-year-old Sam from the Wirral.
Tiny Temper today. Yes. Question. Go on. What are you going to call him? Mr. Temper. Mr. Temper. Tiny. Would you call him Tiny? Tine.
All right, Tyne. TT. TT. I don't know. We'll ask him that. Yeah. I assume his kids call him Dad. He's got two kids. Have you met him before? I've messaged him because he's messaged me on Instagram. But it's hard to get diaries. Yeah, no, I said, yeah, we'll get you booked in. I got his email and stuff. And then gave it to Michael. And look. Here we are. A year later. What should we bring him on?
We're here. Let's bring him in. Tiny Temple, welcome.
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Chapter 3: What challenges does Tinie face as a parent?
Straight in. Straight in. We don't fuck about.
How you guys doing, man? That's how we do it, though. Do you not like that? Is it too raw?
I love it. No, it's good.
It's better. Rob, I've got a game for you. We've done an intro to you already.
I've got a game for you. Oh, go on. Guess what his hot drink of choice is.
Don't look at it. What do you mean you're meant to be guessing? Well, yeah, but it's harder to set a cup. Oh, no, I suppose it would just ruin it if I guessed. So I don't think it's coffee. I don't think it's tea because it would be boring if that was the answer.
The worst game ever. Do you know what?
Let's move on then. It's a milky coffee. Palmy, I think Horlicks is too left field. Maybe hot chocolate. Correct. He loves hot chocolate.
A hotty chocky? Bloody hell, I love it. I've got to have it every day. Just one a day? One a day, yeah. I'm not crazy.
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Chapter 4: How does Tinie Tempah's background influence his music?
Have you done Off Menu?
I bet you've done Off Menu, haven't you? I haven't, no.
Oh, you should know.
What's it saying? Is it good? I don't know.
It's not for me. I talk about what you want to have for dinner. Is it? And we've done that. throw away. That's their main thing. And we're just fucking... We're whipping through that in the first minute. Bored of that because that's a shit idea for a whole show.
You said it, not me. Guys, if you call me, I'll still probably do it. We were chatting before we started. You've had a bit of a break from music. How many kids you got? I've got more than one, less than five.
Boris Johnson.
Yeah, Boris Johnson, yeah. I want to keep a bit of mystique. In a time where everyone divulges everything, you've still got to keep a bit of mystique. I can say one is seven. One is also four. We can work on those now.
That's great. So that may have coincided a bit with your... So did you have a conscious break from bringing albums out?
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Chapter 5: What motivated Tinie to take a break from music?
It doesn't matter if one or two people recognise me or ask for a picture. And I think this break definitely helped me with kind of getting rid of all that anxiety. So that's where we went wrong. Yeah, that's what Josh needs to do. You guys just kept on going.
We kept on going.
Well, it's true, because it's hard to manage. And were you panicking about it all disappearing? Yeah, I was panicking about it all disappearing. I think I still, to this day, have a bit of imposter syndrome. So I've definitely got this whole, you know, council estate.
mindset where you come from in sort of Plumstead Abbey Wood yeah my family's all from there my nan and grandad do you know Mottis Front Road by the train track line that's where my nan and grandad do you know what I always get stuck especially with my white friends because you guys are good at that like all the lads from my school when they go oh do you know this road next to that and that my bearings are so bad I know Wynne's Common I know Plumstead Common I know Plumstead High Street
But they were more Abbey Wood than Plums did.
Yeah, Abbey Wood, SE2 is a bit... But that kind of area, it's like no one really does what you've done from the area, really.
You're very much an anomaly. But I'll tell you what, though. The other day I did the Sidemen halftime show. Yeah. You know the majority of the... I don't want to say all of them, but the majority of the Sidemen are from where we're from.
The Sidemen?
Yeah. Didn't know that.
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Chapter 6: How does Tinie view the changes in the music industry?
So in this whole interim period, that's pretty much what I've been doing.
What was it like doing that kind of gear shift to like you're, you know, doing huge festivals, you're doing huge gigs, you're doing the Olympics and then you're doing, you know, nappy changing? Do you know what? Great question. Thank you. I think it was a bit of a... That means you're locked in, by the way.
He'll think about that in his dark moments.
Don't give that to Rob. No, I won't. I won't say it again.
You'll waste some of these questions coming your way.
You're going to have to work really hard not to say it. Excited, excited. It was a bit of a shock to the system, to be fair. Like I was saying before, it was a conscious decision, but I didn't quite know what I was getting myself into, actually, to be honest. And that's probably the whole premise of the podcast, to a certain degree.
So the actual reality of it, especially as an artist, and I think it's quite fair to say maybe not every single artist is like this, but you're quite self absorbed. It's all about you. It's all about your image. It's all about what you're doing for the day. People are telling you your schedule. People are running around after you. So I have to kind of transfer that.
and then now have to kind of put yourself second. And then, you know, then the family comes first. I will be very honest, which was one of the reasons why I wanted to come on this podcast. It was a bit of like a baptism of fire for me. It was like,
You've got to figure out how to do this because you're so programmed to think you act a certain type of way So at first I was of the mindset that like I don't want to change any nappies like really yeah at first like I don't want to do this like yeah, and but then I've now got to a place with the amount of children I have just by default where, you know, not like I enjoy it.
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Chapter 7: What is Tinie's perspective on parenting in the spotlight?
But versus, you know, what we do on a day to day basis, you're instantly kind of gratified, whether it's on social media, whether it's your paycheck that you receive. But this is like you're putting the same amount of effort into it, if not more.
But it's thankless.
I think for me, I kind of convinced myself that like, you know, it's, you know, because she's a mother and she had always been very maternal, this was something that, you know, she would enjoy way more than I would. This is something she would naturally take to more than I would. But now I don't really think like that.
It's like, it's difficult for everyone. And I'm just being honest. I think it's great to be honest about that because I think there's a lot of, you know, people that would go, from the off, I had this moment and I felt like this and my life changed. I think it is, can be a much longer adaption to those kind of things.
And also, in different generations, it was only like... My dad, he's got five kids. And the first one, he weren't even at the hospital. He just stayed at the pub. And that weren't even like, he's being out of order. It was actually a little bit like, no, don't invade her space. Leave her alone at the hospital.
So it's like, within like 40 years... You tried to push that one through with Lou, didn't you?
No, I wanted to be there. I was actually in the delivery suite three days before seeing a few others come through. Just to see what it's like. Yeah, just to get a feel. Smart man. You are a smart man.
Why shouldn't I do that? But even that, even that, just being honest, I remember when we got to the hospital and we did that whole like lindowing stuff and all that kind of stuff. So I remember we got there and then I brought all my duvets in
and pillows and all this different stuff shower gel and I remember like the midwives being like oh bloody hell like I've never seen like a man come here so like basically she was basically trying to say like so kind of focused on himself like yeah
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Chapter 8: How does Tinie Tempah plan to engage with his children about his music career?
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Your wife's an artist, right? Yes, she's an artist, yeah. So how did she adapt to that kind of thing? Has she taken time off as well? Two of you are creatives. Creatives, yeah. Because it's easy to go, I'm going to take time off. But if you're a creative, both of you, that presumably... I've always created, wanted to create. Yeah. Have you been able to turn that off? Do you know what I mean?
Or are you like thinking, oh, that's a good idea. I'll come back to that in six years.
Yeah. I think the beauty of being a creative is that, you know, you don't, you know, of course, like she's done loads of exhibitions and whatnot and loads of collaborations with different brands and whatnot. But you can kind of move at your own pace. It's not really like, you know, you're not really contracted to kind of work with this like production company or TV network. Yeah.
have to be there at a certain time so that's the luxury that we've always had but again kind of just like absolving myself of my sins i think i also was like you're an artist and you kind of can do this in your own time and in your own pace so i'm going to kind of prioritize what i need to do because you know technically artists really get recognized when they're 60. you've got at least
you know, 20, 30 years before anyone really, you know, like the value of the work. This is just me kind of telling myself this, by the way. So I was like delusional to to a kind of completely different extent. But that was what I continued telling myself, like, you're going to make art for the rest of your life and then
as you get older, you know, kind of maybe Tracey Emin style, then, you know, people are going to start to thing and then the value is going to go up and whatever. So it doesn't really matter about what you're doing for now. It matters more so about me. I'm the one that's on the clock. I mean, I'm the one in the music industry that can age out and that can this and that can that.
But I think over the years, I've began to kind of appreciate that, like, we both have had to make sacrifices. And so, you know, we just have to respect one another's kind of passions and ability to work. So there'll be now, you know, there's numerous days in the week where I'll be like, you know what, I'll take the backseat. I'll be at home. I'll do the school run, the pickup.
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