Jillian Michaels
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Why is Jillian Michaels on Part of the Problem podcast?
Hey, what's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I'm very excited for this one. Thrilled to be joined by Jillian Michaels, who is... There's a lot of titles you have, so I'm not quite sure what I should give for an introduction. She's a fitness guru known for her television shows and her many books. Several New York Times bestsellers. Has kind of been in the health world for a long time. and has recently become, I think, pretty outspoken with support of Bobby Kennedy and criticisms of COVID insanity. And I think a very interesting part of this kind of massive political realignment, this crazy moment that we're all living through. And so I really was very excited to talk to you.
So thank you so much, Jillian, for taking some time out for us.
Thank you for having me. I literally tried to find Adderall to keep up with you today. I don't take it. I was like, does anybody I know take it? How am I going to be on Dave's show? I mean, I have been watching you for years now and learning from you, and I'm really excited to be on. I'm going to do my best today.
Oh, well, thank you so much. That's very kind of you. And well, I appreciate that. And as you know, I've told you this personally before, but my wife is like a huge, huge fan of you. She was so excited when we were on a Pierce Morgan together. And then I ended up getting triggered by Joe Walsh, I think, and just yelling at him the whole time. But you like said something nice about me. And she's like, do you have any idea what this means? Jillian Michaels likes your show. And I was like, yeah, no, I know. It's cool. But anyway, thank you very much. It's very kind of you to say.
Oh my gosh. I think it goes without saying, but I'm glad that me liking your show matters. I now see Joe Rogan deferring to your positions, but I'm glad that she could get excited about me being a fan. That's great.
Right. For my brother, Joe Rogan doing it is really cool. For my wife, she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, but tell me more about Jillian Michaels. This is incredible. So I wanted to ask you, because I'm very curious about this, and I thought one of the, I mean, there were many, but one of the really fascinating things to me during COVID times, it started pretty early in the lockdowns, was it was just this very bizarre thing where we have like what is a health emergency. Right. And then immediately the first response is like, shut down the gyms and keep open the liquor stores. And then there were a lot of people in kind of the health world who understandably sort of objected to that. They were like, yeah, this, and I'm curious, was this kind of like part of your story too? Or what were your like politics before the COVID era? How did they change through that?
I'm curious.
I was exceptionally liberal pre-COVID. And I am guilty of understanding why you might close a gym at the time when the hospitals were overrun. And I had caught it from a friend, and I was perfectly fine. But it was obviously very transmissible. And at that time, we were worrying about our parents, and we didn't know who was vulnerable, and you were hearing all kinds of craziness. So when I first heard all of this stuff, like it came from a wet market, and we need to close the gyms, and if we can just control this for two weeks, we're going to get a hold of it. Just two weeks, guys. Just stay strong. And then it's week after week. And all of a sudden the stories don't add up and that science doesn't make sense. And you're seeing all of these incongruencies and policy.
And one from California that was my absolute favorite is what I call the COVID layer. So when you were allowed to go to a restaurant. You had to wear your mask. And when you would walk from the hostess stand to the table, you could catch COVID. So you must wear your mask. But once you sit down and you begin eating and talking with other people in a room filled with other people, you see you were below the COVID layer. And at that point, I was like, this is awesome. Bananas. You started to see absolute madness and inconsistencies and hypocrisy and silencing doctors that were exceptionally credible.
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