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Pam Bondi FIRED + Charlie Kirk Bullet Controversy | PBD #769

03 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What personal reflections are shared at the beginning of the episode?

2.68 - 20.053 Vincent Oshana

Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm supposed to take sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. A handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here.

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20.073 - 21.956 Charlie Kirk

You are a one-on-one? My son's right there.

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22.056 - 23.98 Patrick Bet-David

I don't think I've ever said this before.

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28.803 - 44.616 Charlie Kirk

All right, so it's Good Friday today. I haven't worn a pink shirt God knows for how long. Vinny, literally, I can't think of the last time I wore a pink shirt. Tom, you got a nice purple shirt and a purple tie on. Adam's all black. Elon, all black. Vinny, all black. The rest of us add a little bit of color. Rob, what do you got on? Well, it's Easter weekend, right? Blue.

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44.816 - 53.29 Charlie Kirk

Rob's got a little bit of blue on. Is pink the color for Easter? Is that the color? I don't know if pink is the color for Easter, but I just kind of think about some of the colors.

54.752 - 66.15 Charlie Kirk

For those of you guys that got big plans this weekend, if you're a follower of the old philosopher Joe Biden, I know you guys are going to be doing Easter with these potatoes because it's like the woke thing to do, and I respect you guys.

66.13 - 82.67 Charlie Kirk

But those of you guys that are going to do it the traditional way and celebrate the event that happened at 9 a.m., which Vinny is going to tell us right now in a minute, why we do what we do today. And we've got a lot of stories to get into, a lot of them. Trevor Bauer is looking like he's got a strategy of how to get into the Major League Baseball.

82.79 - 97.548 Charlie Kirk

And there's some fans here that want to root him on. And I messaged him yesterday. I'm excited to see what happens with him. DeSantis is making some big moves. Pam Bondi just got fired yesterday. Reports of Tulsi may be next. Todd Blanche was on Fox yesterday talking about was there.

98.149 - 108.683 Charlie Kirk

The reason for it is because of how maybe Pam Bondi and Swalwell back in the days, you know, was something tipped off, and he said no. I think Jesse asked the question. Elon's got some thoughts on that.

Chapter 2: What recent political events are impacting Pam Bondi's career?

261.027 - 286.116 Charlie Kirk

We have to touch that story 100%. But before we get started... One of my favorite people that I like to see and hear pray is Thomas Ellsworth. So, Tom, today, Good Friday, before we start the podcast, I would like to see you lead us with a prayer. Go for it. Thank you very much. Our Lord, we just thank you for this time together, and we just pray peace upon the nation, upon the world.

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286.096 - 308.355 Charlie Kirk

And Lord, we come to you on this very special day for those in the Christian tradition. This is Friday. This is Good Friday with the crucifixion of Christ. And we all know in our hearts today, because we have the path of history, that Friday is here, but Sunday's coming. And we just thank you for that opportunity to be reverent this weekend. I pray for calmness and peace among the people.

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308.796 - 327.533 Charlie Kirk

I pray for encouragement to people. But most of all, I pray that there is a sense of humanness that comes back to people reaching out to neighbors and turning down the tone of dialogue in the name of Good Friday and maybe finding the humanness and compassion and community that is in all of us. And we ask that your Holy Spirit be here and guide us in that.

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327.874 - 348.741 Charlie Kirk

And we thank you so much in the Lord's name. Amen. Amen, amen. Thank you, Tom. Tomorrow, the interview with Lee Strobel, Case for Christ, goes out tomorrow morning. And we had a very, very good conversation together. He's on my neck right now as well, but very, very good conversation. He was an atheist for 25 years. I was an atheist for 28 years. I was an atheist for 25 years.

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349.181 - 364.922 Charlie Kirk

And he explained why, which relationship in the family leads to sometimes men being atheists. And you just have to see this processing that we had together. It was fascinating. I didn't know you were an atheist that long. Who? Me who? 25 years. 25 years I was an atheist.

Chapter 3: How does the discussion shift to the situation in Iran?

364.942 - 383.804 Charlie Kirk

Vocal atheist? Oh, I did not believe in anything. I got kicked out of Bible study. I got kicked out of Bible school in Iran. My mom would have to come pick me up, and the pastor would say, we can't have this guy in the class no more. So right after school, I would be playing outside. They'd say, you can't come in class. They wouldn't even let me get into class. Because of my position.

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383.824 - 400.763 Charlie Kirk

This was in LA? In Iran, when I lived in Iran. In Iran? In Iran. Yeah, you have a hard time believing. And then when I come here, my parents got a divorce. So the whole thing for me was just a bunch of BS. I don't need it. Wow. January 21st of 04, my life changed. And the rest is history. I don't fear anything, but my God, I fear God.

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401.063 - 408.291 Charlie Kirk

I can't even explain to you where that level of fear comes from. He's changed my life. The other day, me, Jen, and Vinny are sitting down. I think it was yesterday.

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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Charlie Kirk bullet controversy?

408.311 - 433.418 Charlie Kirk

We're having a conversation together. on how much this life makes no sense to me, how amazing of a life we have, the amount of things we have to be grateful for. I was reading a story this morning, and I want to get into the stories we will. And I was reading a story this morning. It's a story called the empty boat theory. I don't know if you've heard about this empty boat theory.

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433.438 - 456.409 Charlie Kirk

Have you heard about this empty boat theory? The empty boat theory is a story about, imagine you're going in a boat, Tom. Tom, imagine you're going in a boat. I know, Rob, don't put the story up. Just put it aside. Imagine you're going in a boat. And while you're going in this boat, all of a sudden another boat hits you. What's your immediate reaction? What the heck is going on?

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456.429 - 476.736 Charlie Kirk

What are you doing? You're stupid. You're driving crazy. Unless if no one's in that boat. If no one's in that boat, who are you upset at? Nobody. Nobody. So the only reason we get upset at the boat is why? The person that's in the boat to say, it's your fault, why did you do this, da-da-da-da-da.

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477.239 - 492.487 Charlie Kirk

But sometimes we have to just kind of be like, dude, we don't know the story of whatever this individual has gone through in their life. We don't have a clue what this person's doing. Sometimes a lot of commentary will come in. And even when you're talking to the guys in Jubilee and these kids are calling you out and they send all this out, they're trying to get under your skin.

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492.827 - 510.402 Charlie Kirk

Rage baiting is a business model today. 100% is a business model today. So you have to either sit there And when somebody is saying something to you, saying, if this was an empty boat, what would my reaction be to this kid, be to this person, be to this man? We have to have that debate. We have to have the argument on the right topics.

510.903 - 529.22 Charlie Kirk

But also at the same time, for me, when it comes down to faith, You know, this whole thing of what God has done, every single day I live my life, I can't believe the life I'm living. I cannot believe it. It's an amazing gift. It's an amazing opportunity we all have, the relationships, the challenges, the good, the bad.

529.24 - 550.995 Charlie Kirk

Sometimes, you know, you're going a million miles an hour, and you don't want to take a time out. Sometimes God will do... In his own timeout. He says, you don't want to take the timeout, Vinny? No problem. No problem, buddy. I'm going to schedule that timeout for you. Go ahead. Here you go. Here's your timeout. And then, boom. And you have nothing going on.

551.255 - 565.168 Charlie Kirk

It happened to me last weekend when we had the timeout. Maybe we'll have a conversation one of these days. I'll ask you one more question, Pat. Because I think, you know, in honor of Easter, and it's also the same week as Passover, I had a very... Pointing conversation with my friend's dad, who's basically like a rabbi.

565.75 - 588.766 Charlie Kirk

I want to ask you, what percentage of your success and this crazy life that you've had and all these accolades, amazing things, do you owe to yourself? And do you owe it to the man upstairs? 100% God. I'll tell you it's 100% God. And I'll tell you why. Because I'll explain it to you. Listen, it's funny. I'm talking to one of my friends who was my groomsman at my wedding. And we had a falling out.

Chapter 5: What controversies surround Pam Bondi's firing?

4515.173 - 4535.975 Charlie Kirk

This goes back to my point that I was talking about with Pam Bondi and the AG, and it's like, when it comes to Republicans, Pat, they are the, build a case. This is why people like me and people like you are losing their freaking minds. The documentation's there. The marriage records, the family records. If this was the other, bro, can you imagine if this was the other party was in charge?

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4536.195 - 4552.437 Charlie Kirk

She married her brother for legal, you're done. You're done. It's illegal. You're marrying your brother to get him immigration status. Am I losing my mind? No, well, they make you feel like you're losing your mind. Yeah. That's the trick. Like I'm thinking crazy. Yeah, yeah.

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Chapter 6: What issues are raised about accountability in politics?

4552.457 - 4576.37 Charlie Kirk

And it doesn't stop there. This is my opinion. There is no way. There is no way. Tim Walz, my opinion, Ilhan Omar, Keith Ellison, the AG of freaking Minnesota, they don't know billions, and this is what pisses me off, Tommy. They bring them to Congress to go in front of the Senate. Did you see Keith Ellison's attitude? Did you see him talking?

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4576.69 - 4588.109 Charlie Kirk

The only way you have to... If one of us right now had to go to Congress... You know how proper and he's sitting there with an attitude. The only way you have that attitude is when you know you're untouchable, when you know they can't do nothing to you.

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4588.45 - 4606.157 Charlie Kirk

Just like when Peter Strzok and everybody during Russiagate came up and they're like, no, no, yelling, yelling at congressmen and yelling at Senators Tom because they know they're untouchable. Add on top of all this stuff, bro, nobody gets accountable. It's so freaking frustrating. Frustrating to me because it's like, dude, what are we doing?

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Chapter 7: How does the discussion shift to the impact of NATO?

4606.517 - 4622.2 Charlie Kirk

What are we doing? We're going to build a case. We're going to send them a letter. Republicans love doing this. We're going to launch an investigation. Really. Launch it to where? It's going to crash right down to the moon. No. And none of them, Ilan, and I know, Tom, you want to say something. It furiates me. This is why the country is sick of it.

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4622.58 - 4643.055 Charlie Kirk

Endless investigations, endless claims, endless this, and somehow nobody on top gets in trouble. Zero. The only arrests, and I'll give it to you, were James Comey indicted. James Comey, Letitia James, and what happened two weeks after? Case dismissed. The judge, somebody messed up, the prosecutors, and nothing. Zero accountability. Go ahead, Tom.

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Chapter 8: What are the implications of the Charlie Kirk bullet controversy?

4643.035 - 4660.183 Charlie Kirk

It doesn't surprise me that Omar is being accused of committing fraud and she's protecting people or complicit, you know, allegedly, we'll find out soon enough, of people who are committing fraud. The thing that boggles my mind right now is very, very simple.

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4660.163 - 4682.231 Charlie Kirk

It says, Pat, when all the arguments happen and we're in meetings about this and that, what is the one thing in business that usually just causes all the smoke to clear? Numbers. How much did you spend? Did you overspend your budget? We look at it. You did. So don't tell me this or that. Here's the numbers. Sales. You're telling me you had a good month. It's not.

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4682.311 - 4709.035 Charlie Kirk

You're actually flat to last month. And year over year, you're actually down. Numbers clear the air in business always. All we need to do is take the quality lyrics and find out where the money made the U-turn back to election coffers in Minnesota. Because that's what I believe happened. That's what I suspect happened. And where's the FBI? All you need is that.

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4709.476 - 4712.682 Charlie Kirk

As soon as you have a dollar meant for...

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4712.662 - 4741.453 Charlie Kirk

honest welfare programs that's fraudulently given to something like the quality learning section and that dollar went back around to omar 24 a campaign that's all you need and then what they will have to say is i didn't know it was coming from there and that is weak but it doesn't surprise me i want to see let's stop the talk words talk number scream let's audit let's get the investigation going and let's see where the money went and then it's all done adam

4741.822 - 4758.567 Charlie Kirk

Look, Minnesota's an asshole, almost first. And she's the main reason for it. It's pretty simple to me. Whether she married her brother or, you know, whatever the situation is, or the rice and the bananas, everything they got going on over there. They've ruined the state of Minnesota. My mom's from Minnesota. I used to go there every summer. I have no interest in Minnesota at this point.

4758.587 - 4769.364 Charlie Kirk

Minnesota's a nice, cold place. And now the people from the warmest place in the world, Somalia, Mogadishu, they're like, yeah, let's go to freezing Minnesota. Why?

4769.504 - 4769.584

Why?

4770.593 - 4785.811 Charlie Kirk

The question is why? How did they get there? To me, everything in politics is binary, unfortunately. When's a third-party candidate done anything? Ross Perot? RFK? To me, you're either on the Trump camp or you're on the Ilhan Omar camp. That's it. And I'm on the Trump camp. Yeah.

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