Who Is Michael Cohen? | PBD #728
episodePreviously titled “Who Is Michael Cohen? | PBD 728” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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What is discussed at the start of this section?
the words the media should be using to describe mr trump are generous kind honest and genuine he was the ultimate loyalist it's not a question of flip it's a question of answering questions you flip though it's not a flip michael you went on every single channel you talk negatively about the president the man who once said he'd take a bullet for donald trump The only time I would not if he's the one that was pulling the trigger. I plead guilty in federal court to felonies for the benefit of individual number one. And for the record, individual number one is President Donald J. Trump. Ex-Trump attorney Michael Cohen says New York prosecutors pressured him to target President Trump. I would never have testified.
I didn't want to. And you've been canceled now by both sides. They started getting 20,000 people telling them, if Michael Cohen remains on the network, we're unsubscribing. My audience will say, are you back in this camp? Are you bending the knee? I almost can't say anything.
You chose that job. That comes with the terror. So there's probably two communities watching this saying, why would Michael Cohen go on the PBD podcast? And number two, why would we have Michael Cohen on the podcast today? After he just got fired by Midas Touch, they cut his show and we started talking. We've been talking for about almost two years because I wanted to get him on to talk about some of the decisions that he made. And it was very uncomfortable in certain moments. very awkward in certain moments, but he was very open. He said some things that I did not think he was going to say. I asked him a question. I said, who do you trust and who trusts you? You will be very surprised by the answer he gave, and he got emotional when he gave the answer.
I said, do you want a pardon from the president? Which side do you trust more, the left or the right? You've been attacked by both sides. Which one is worse? And he was very frank and very open about it. Right before we were going live, he was doing a talk, for 100 universities, some of the biggest universities, Yale being one of them, to tell him how to handle the lawsuit, how to deal with the president. He opens up and talks about that. Of course, he told a lot of stories behind the scenes with the president, and you'll see a moment, even an initiative, that he's wanting to share on why he may want to go to the White House and sit down and talk to the president. This is Michael Cohen. President Trump's lawyer wants to go and talk to the president.
How does Michael Cohen describe the pressure from New York prosecutors?
You're going to watch this, and I don't know how you're going to process this, but I think by the time it's over, you're going to say, this is definitely the last thing I would have thought for Michael Cohen to do on this show, on PBD Podcast. With that being said, enjoy the interview.
Who is Michael Cohen? I feel I'm supposed to take sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point?
The future looks bright. A handshake is better than anything I ever saw. It's right here. You are a one of one. My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before. But if there's one thing I will tell you while the audience is watching this, they're probably surprised that you're sitting here. Like if there was anywhere you would be on a podcast right now, your audience is probably surprised you're here.
And my audience is going to say- My audience would kill me.
That's exactly what I'm saying, that you're sitting here. But I got a lot of questions, a lot of things I want to go through. And by the way, it's important that the audience knows nothing is off the table. You get to choose to answer whatever way you want, and I'm going to ask my questions. But something happened right before we got live. You were doing an interview that I ask you if you're comfortable sharing with the audience. So the head of Yale asked you to speak to 100 presidents of different universities. Why?
So it's Jeffrey Sonnenfeld. He's the head of the Yale University Business School. I've known Jeffrey while I speak at Yale several times a year at Jeffrey's bequest.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is discussed at the start of this section?
0:00–2:19
2
How does Michael Cohen describe the pressure from New York prosecutors?
2:19–5:09
3
What led to Michael Cohen being dropped by MeidasTouch?
5:09–15:58
4
Who does Michael Cohen trust today and who trusts him?
15:58–1:04:06
5
What insights does Michael Cohen share about loyalty in politics?
1:04:06–1:04:27
6
How does Michael Cohen describe his relationship with Trump and his inner circle?
1:04:27–1:05:11
7
What is the significance of the Trump Emancipation Proclamation Order?
1:05:11–1:05:29
8
What experiences does Michael Cohen recount from his time in prison?
1:05:29–2:00:41
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