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Pints With Aquinas

Michael Jones DESTROYS Muslim TikToks | Last Call Ep. 20

25 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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61.547 - 67.72 Starr McGowan

Do you think that America should follow Sharia law? The truth is it's actually just a system built to protect us.

67.818 - 81.797 Mike Jones

In Sharia law, it's legal for husbands to hit their wives. Child marriage, also permissible under Sharia law. Sexual slavery, permissible under Sharia law. She actually needs to read the Islamic sources and learn that Sharia law would be a hellhole for a poor woman like her.

90.429 - 95.496 Matt Fradd

Mike, welcome to Last Call, where you're drinking a whiskey and I'm drinking a throat coat tea.

98.024 - 99.106 Mike Jones

One of us has got to be a man.

101.512 - 122.449 Matt Fradd

Man. Yeah, come on. Like I said. Well done. All right. Are you ready to destroy some Islamic TikToks? Absolutely. As opposed to Islamists. I'm not saying we destroy them. That's... That's not what I... Alright, let's take a look at the first one. This comes from Australia representing... Apologise. Yeah, I apologise to the world. Go.

Chapter 2: What TikTok claims about Sharia law are being challenged?

187.856 - 206.162 Mike Jones

I think this number isn't even accurate, though. But even if it was, it comes from ancient Chinese medicine. And does Muhammad say this? There is a hadith where he says it, yeah. But it doesn't matter. He gets it probably from the ancient world, which this information was flowing around. It's not some modern miracle or Islamic miracle or anything like that.

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209.332 - 212.856 Matt Fradd

All right, bye, Australian woman. Next, this fella. Who's this bloke?

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212.956 - 219.383 Mike Jones

Oh, this guy. You know him? He calls himself the Money Muslim. He's helping Muslims invest. Is he? All right.

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Let's go. I can prove to you that Islam is the one true religion in 45 seconds. Point number one, the Quran says the word man and woman 23 times, and we have 23 pairs of chromosomes. The Quran also says the word land 13 times, the word sea 32 times, and the makeup of our earth is 71% sea and 29% land. That is crazy.

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Number three, it also says the word day 365 times, which is the exact calendar we use right now. And number four, it says the word month 12 times, which is the exact same calendar that we use right now. Number five, it mentions that the heavens and earths are constantly expanding. In the last 100 years, we just now found out that the universe is ever expanding.

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Number six, the Quran is 1400 years old. None of these things were around 1400 years ago. It was written, transcribed by an illiterate man who could not read or write. How would have he been able to know any of that unless it was divine? That brings me to point number seven.

Chapter 3: How do proponents of Sharia law justify its practices?

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Look at everything objectively. Objectively, if you look at what I just mentioned, how can you deny that Islam... isn't the truth.

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288.371 - 310.518 Mike Jones

Oh my gosh, God bless him. He just debunked Islam. How? He said the Quran says the heaven and earth are expanding. The earth isn't expanding, therefore Islam is false. Whoops. Does it say that? According to him, it doesn't actually say that, but... According to him, it does. So, yeah, Islam is false. And by the way, Muslim scholars have debunked this. There are no numerical miracles in the Quran.

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310.919 - 331.665 Mike Jones

People just pick and choose. It doesn't actually say this kind of stuff. And if you just run an AI through this stuff, count the Arabic words in the Quran, how many times you see day, how many times you see earth, land, you're going to get various numbers, even depending on the models, because the Arabic, you know, it can be kind of... wonky depending on the way you're reading it.

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331.766 - 340.763 Mike Jones

So no, this is not a miracle. Muslims have debunked this. There's articles debunking this from Muslims. This is not a miracle. He's not done his research. Is he a convert?

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340.783 - 341.324 Matt Fradd

Do you have any idea?

341.344 - 343.247 Mike Jones

Yeah, he's a white convert to Islam.

344.67 - 351.102 Matt Fradd

Yeah, it's really sad. Why do you think it is they reach for these bizarre miracle claims? Is it because they have none?

Chapter 4: What scientific miracles are claimed in the Quran?

351.082 - 359.816 Mike Jones

It's because they have none. You're absolutely right. There is no evidence for Islam, so they have to go to this wonky, weird stuff that any atheist would laugh at if we had to use this for Christianity.

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360.056 - 370.272 Matt Fradd

As you know, Aquinas uses this in the Summa Contra Gentiles where he points out that Muhammad wasn't a prophet, that he had no supernatural signs to authenticate his message.

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370.252 - 377.421 Mike Jones

And again, this has been debunked by Muslims. Scientific miracles, numerical miracles in the Quran, debunked by Muslims, pointing out... Really?

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377.642 - 382.508 Matt Fradd

Why are they... I mean, good for them, but why are they debunking these claims that allegedly prove their faith?

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382.528 - 391.5 Mike Jones

I mean, I think at the end of the day, they don't want to look stupid. Right. Muslims are running around saying stuff that you can demonstrate is false by just going through the Quran and counting these words.

391.885 - 394.269 Matt Fradd

you're gonna look stupid. And you see this stuff in Christianity as well.

394.39 - 412.442 Matt Fradd

I haven't checked this out, but I remember seeing back in the day, before social media, where people would send these email chain things, and it was like, if you count up all the verses in scripture, and then you divide it in half, the middle verse, not realizing that the verses, they weren't put into the Middle Ages anyway. Right.

412.422 - 419.513 Matt Fradd

And actually, I've never done the research to see if that was the middle verse, but even if it was what they claimed it to be, something like trusting God with your whole heart, it wouldn't matter.

420.014 - 438.622 Mike Jones

Yeah. It's just humans like patterns. We look for patterns and we recognize it. That's all this could be even if it's true. I mean, but it isn't. It's false. Are Muslims looking at this fella and going, yeah. Yeah. Oh. Okay. This is what we're dealing with, folks. This is what we're dealing with. All right.

Chapter 5: How do critics debunk claims of Quranic miracles?

444.792 - 445.192 Olivia Maher

Yes.

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445.212 - 450.04 Starr McGowan

Some people think that Sharia law is a system based off of punishment and oppression and politics.

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450.02 - 478.913 Starr McGowan

but the truth is it's actually just a system built to protect us for example in america there are literally homeless people all over the place every single city right but in uae one of the first things that i realized is that there are no homeless people anywhere imagine a society where the poor are cared for and contracts are honored where animals can't be abused and exploitation it's forbidden america used to claim that they run for a system that

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478.893 - 499.787 Starr McGowan

promotes justice and equality and peace but sharia law and islamic countries guarantees those things in ways that man-made laws never have so please don't be afraid of the word sharia or the religion of islam be afraid of a world without divine justice

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499.767 - 504.797 Matt Fradd

Totally. You're a bigot. You are a bigot. This is just a religion of fantasy.

504.997 - 513.693 Mike Jones

Why did you show me a video of a chicken advocating for KFC? What does that mean? It's a woman advocating for Islam. It's the same thing as a chicken advocating for KFC.

513.894 - 516.679 Matt Fradd

All right. I think she's trying to get clicks and likes.

516.659 - 531.9 Mike Jones

Yeah, absolutely. Well, okay, let's just debunk her. No, the reason why the U of A doesn't have any homeless is because it's illegal in the U of A to sleep in public. I like that. So anytime somebody is homeless, they kick them out of the country. Oh.

531.88 - 556.638 Mike Jones

So yeah, this idea, this mirage we get from people like Tucker Carlson or her that, oh, these Islamic countries are so well, it's because they have such authoritarian laws in place to make it appear like it's a beautiful place with low crime and stuff. They're just kicking these people out. So what are you talking about? And Sharia law is definitely based on abuse and authoritarianism.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of Islamic teachings on violence?

578.988 - 597.597 Mike Jones

Now, in fairness, you've got to give them two warnings, don't you? Yeah, you give them two warnings. First, you advise them, then you separate beds, and if they continue, then you strike them. Child marriage, also permissible under Sharia law. Sexual slavery, permissible under Sharia law. This woman is insane or incredibly stupid. She does not know what she's talking about.

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598.078 - 604.868 Mike Jones

She actually needs to read the Islamic sources and learn that Sharia law would be a hellhole for a poor woman like her.

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605.573 - 623.06 Matt Fradd

I wonder if people go to UAE and like, I kind of agree with this part of what she's saying. Like when you go from a country like Australia to America, there's a lot of real broken down cities. There are, yeah. And a lot of places that look terrible. And you go to Europe or you go to UAE, it looks great. Yeah.

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623.081 - 627.868 Matt Fradd

But you could affirm the good things that are bringing that about without affirming Sharia law, presumably.

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627.933 - 640.954 Mike Jones

Yeah, and you also have to recognize, I mean, the U of A is built on slave labor. They import a lot of people from India, Southeast Asia, to live in horrible conditions, work for very poor. Totally. You can't own anything if you're not from the UAE. Go to Qatar, for example.

641.295 - 650.129 Matt Fradd

You can't be a citizen and be a Christian, for example. Sorry, let me clarify. You can't own property in the UAE if you're from somewhere else. You can rent for like 100 years or something by purchasing it, purchasing it.

650.85 - 662.242 Mike Jones

Purchasing it, yeah. I mean, there's all these... What we see with these Islamic countries, I mean, not everything's bad, sure, but a lot of it's facade. The reason why there's no homeless, they'll kick you out of your homeless. That's not the way you handle it.

Chapter 7: How does apostasy affect Muslim converts?

662.262 - 664.048 Mike Jones

You can just give your problems to somebody else.

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Islamophobia is not random. It was designed. It was created on purpose. Movies, news, politics, all repeating the same script. For decades, Muslims were painted as dangerous, and terrorists stripped of their humanity. And do you know why? So later, anything could be done to them and the world will stay silent. What's happening in Palestine now, it's proof this strategy worked.

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Congratulations, world. You fell for it.

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695.956 - 709.856 Mike Jones

Yeah, so apparently Islamophobes have invented time machines, and we went back and changed the Islamic sources to make them sound violent. Powerful stuff. Powerful. God bless her. Yeah. Yeah, half the time I'm just quoting what your own Islamic sources show.

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710.117 - 724.981 Matt Fradd

I mean, it... Two things can be true at once, right? Like, it could be the case that people maybe treat Muslims in a bad way because of what they've heard of them. They might be prejudiced against them. That can be true even from people who haven't read the original sources.

725.041 - 731.859 Matt Fradd

And then it could also be true if those people were educated on the original sources, they would realize that some of the views they hold are actually Accurate.

732.4 - 753.944 Mike Jones

Oh, yes. Surah 929, fight those who do not believe in Allah or the last day or comply with what him and his messenger have forbidden until they pay the jizya, willingly submitted, fully humbled. The Quran commands Muslims to fight us until we submit to them, okay? Where are we getting this idea that Islam is violent? Oh, I don't know, maybe the Quran.

754.265 - 759.751 Mike Jones

What about Sahih Muslim, where Muhammad says, I've been commanded to fight those until they pay the zakat.

Chapter 8: What arguments are made against the Quran's validity?

759.791 - 766.418 Mike Jones

That's the Islamic tax that Muslims have to pay. So I think that's Sahih Muslim 22. They have to pay this tax.

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766.438 - 774.107 Matt Fradd

And whenever we're not surprised that another Muslim has blown something up or killed somebody after shouting ala Akbar. Yeah.

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774.087 - 795.773 Mike Jones

Look at the research. Davis Brown, Monica Duffy Toff, Jonathan Fox have found that Islam is associated with more violence and terrorism, increased conflicts. I mean, that's just the facts. We're not inventing something. This is not propaganda. This is facts. Islam is associated with more violence. And why? You look at their texts, the Hadith, the Quran, you see it in there.

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796.054 - 816.236 Mike Jones

Surah 929, Surah 911, it's in Surah 8. It's all over the place, man. So this idea that, you know, this has all just been invented. No, we're going on what the Quran says. And by the way, we have actual studies published. by people like Davis Brown, Monica Duffy Toff, Jonathan Fox, showing that yes, we do see violence associated with Islam.

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816.256 - 835.904 Mike Jones

Everyone should read the book, The Price of Freedom Denied. The two authors point out in that book that there's authoritarianism associated with Islam. There's increased levels of persecution associated with Islam, more oppression for Christians and Jews living in those countries. So this idea that we've invented this, no, we're going on what the facts are.

836.445 - 846.197 Mike Jones

There's a good reason to be Islamophobic. A healthy fear of Islam is good given what it causes, more violence, chaos, authoritarianism, et cetera. Well stated.

846.177 - 871.071 Matt Fradd

When our blessed Lord breathed his last on the cross, St. Matthew tells us that the earth shook, rocks split, tombs opened. Even creation couldn't stay silent in the face of what was happening. Easter may have come and gone, but the invitation still stands to let God shake up our lives, to break open the quiet sins we keep hidden, the ones that weigh us down, though no one else sees them.

871.051 - 894.943 Matt Fradd

I have spoken with thousands of men about this over the years. I'll often ask, what is the lie that you tell yourself before you look at pornography? And the one that hits me the hardest is when I'm told, I'm going to fall to this again. I may as well just go ahead and give in. It's this despair that breaks my heart. I mean, pornography doesn't wreck your life in one foul swoop.

895.203 - 920.462 Matt Fradd

It just quietly steals. It takes your presence, your intimacy, your hunger for what's real. The woman beside you wonders why she feels unseen. The kids grow up with a version of you that's distant, distracted. And if you're not married yet, porn is already shaping the kind of man you'll be one day. And you know as well as I do that that is not the kind of man you want to be.

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