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Pivot

Epstein Files Fallout, Trump's Fed Chair Pick, and Musk Merger

03 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the implications of the new Epstein files release?

0.031 - 21.999 Kara Swisher

Some people hate you and love me, and some people love you and hate me. It's perfect. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher. And I'm Scott Galloway. Resist and unsubscribe February has begun. How's it going? You've been putting up a lot. You've been really getting rid of shit. I've been getting rid of a lot, but not like you.

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22.019 - 27.086 Kara Swisher

I still have Uber. I was just going to pause it and use Lyft instead. Yeah, it sucks when you got to walk the walk.

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27.766 - 29.008 Scott Galloway

I know, I know.

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Chapter 2: How does Trump's Fed chair pick impact the economy?

28.988 - 52.053 Kara Swisher

You'd be a better judge of how it's going than me. I've gotten hundreds and I'm about to cross 1,000 e-mails of people with screenshots of them unsubscribing. Obviously, you need hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. I'm going on CNN, MSNBC, PBS, I'm doing the rounds there. I think it's taken off. I have to tell you, I'm hearing it from lots of people. Oh, thanks.

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52.133 - 71.702 Kara Swisher

I think, well, I hope you're right. You're probably being generous because you like me, but I've heard from about a third of the companies, either they're CEOs, and they've been very polite, but they're like, you realize that I supported this and I'm against ICE. And I'm like, yeah, to me you are, but I haven't heard you say dick publicly. Not dick. And what's interesting is through the process,

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71.682 - 78.074 Kara Swisher

For example, I unsubscribed from Uber, or I canceled my Uber account. That was a big one. I thought that was a big deal.

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Chapter 3: What are the latest developments in the AI arms race?

78.094 - 94.162 Kara Swisher

Oh, my God. Before you go, it tells you, all right, I've ordered 37 times from Uber Eats. How many Ubers have I taken in the last 10 years? Guess. I don't know. Thousands. 3,747. Yeah, yeah. And I did some math here. Everyone thought you had a private driver. I'm like, he doesn't have a fucking private driver.

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94.182 - 94.822 Unknown

Yeah, it's called Uber.

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94.842 - 99.127 Kara Swisher

It's called Dara Khosrowshahi. Yeah, that's right. Anyways, I absolutely love Uber Lux.

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Chapter 4: How are major figures like Musk and Gates connected to Epstein?

99.247 - 120.232 Kara Swisher

And this is a story of privilege. Let me do my land acknowledgements. Most people don't have the money I have. Anyways, but I've taken 350 Ubers a year for the last 10 years on average. The average price of Uber Lux has gone from $40 to $60 to $80 to $120. And this is what these companies do. Yeah, that's crazy. They do predatory pricing. They price it below market. Incredible value proposition.

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120.272 - 131.709 Kara Swisher

They wait until they consolidate the market. Then they start raising prices, which Uber has done 7% to 10% a year for the last decade. So this year, in 2025, do you know how much I'm spending a year on Uber? No. What?

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Chapter 5: What are the consequences of canceling subscriptions?

131.729 - 134.493 Kara Swisher

I'm spending $34,000 a year on Uber. What?

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134.994 - 135.795 Unknown

Where are you going?

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135.855 - 141.043 Kara Swisher

I figured it out. Where the fuck are you going? Everywhere. I go everywhere.

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141.204 - 142.265 Scott Galloway

You could have hired a driver.

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Yeah.

142.945 - 160.743 Kara Swisher

Okay, no, better yet, I figured it out. I'm now taking the tube here. I'm taking the subway. By the way, the subway in New York is amazing. And I'm filling in the gaps with Uber X, whatever it's called, the cheap one where you get an air freshener and, you know, a guy who can't figure out ways. That was probably a hate crime.

Chapter 6: How does the merger of SpaceX and xAI change the tech landscape?

160.863 - 188.783 Kara Swisher

Anyways. And then, but I figured out the money I'm gonna save, I could buy, including insurance and parking, I could lease a Mercedes G-Wagon, a Range Rover, or the new BMW i-Series 7. People do not realize how much money they are spending on these platforms, because they get you in, they automatically renew, time goes faster than you think. I found out I have three ChatGPT subscriptions.

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188.923 - 191.447 Kara Swisher

I'm not sure why, but I have three.

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191.427 - 192.509 Unknown

A drunken night.

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193.23 - 212.136 Kara Swisher

I have four Apple TV Plus subscriptions. I'm like, how do I log on here? And I just log on again, or I just create a new account. I have been, I switched from AT&T, which has been a supporter of ICE. I'm saving approximately $70 a month on AT&T, switching over to Noble, which I did before.

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212.116 - 225.732 Kara Swisher

Anyways, I'm trying to unsubscribe from something every day and do some analysis around what I've spent and what it's cost. May I ask a question? Because someone didn't bring this up. Would you get rid of your stocks in these companies?

Chapter 7: What are the ethical concerns regarding AI in surveillance?

227.574 - 253.902 Kara Swisher

Oh, that's a tough one. I know. That's what I thought. I thought it was a good question. Okay. This is the bottom line. I think I'm going to have to. I'm also thinking about transferring all of my stocks and bonds and assets from from Goldman and going either to a regional bank or even a Canadian bank. Canadian bank, RBC, whatever.

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253.923 - 269.725 Kara Swisher

I just don't want to hurt Americans, but I think I might go to a regional bank. But I am going to try and walk the walk here. And every day I'm unsubscribing or canceling from something. But yeah. Yeah, it gets easy to harder.

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Chapter 8: How does the podcast wrap up with wins and fails for the week?

269.825 - 278.533 Kara Swisher

That was a good question from a listener. I thought, all right, let's listen to some of what our listeners have called in to tell us they've done. I unsubscribe from Apple TV.

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279.355 - 284.402 Unknown

I have personally unsubscribed from every streaming service that is currently out there.

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285.704 - 299.265 Scott Galloway

Personally, I had given up Amazon three egregious Jeff Bezos acts ago. I had been guiltily keeping the Kindle Unlimited. That is gone. As of today, as is Apple Fitness.

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300.107 - 308.116 Michael

This is Michael in Cameroon. And I have canceled my ChatGPT Pro and Amazon Prime.

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309.339 - 321.385 Unknown

Amazon acquired IMDb 25 years ago. I've been paying for the Pro membership subscription for the last 20 years. It's a pain, but I can find this information elsewhere. So click. Click.

321.702 - 342.004 Kara Swisher

This is all different. You don't realize how much stuff we pay these people everywhere. And also, what's really helpful is you gave examples of what you can go to. Like, I think you said go to, oh, music service. You got rid of a music and you went to a different one. Yeah. You know, helping people go to other things. Now, can I just make one point? Not everything is perfect.

342.024 - 360.829 Kara Swisher

No company, all companies have been involved in all kinds of nefarious activities that you don't like. But you've got to meet the moment for now. And you could always go back to them. right, at some point. That's the thing. You're sending a message right now, like, I have to give up the Amazon stuff. I've got to work on that today. Like, I use Amazon a lot.

360.989 - 380.073 Kara Swisher

My wife's shift shifted to local retailers, which one of the problems is you can't find products because of the tariffs. Like, and that's stuff you use every day. But I'm really, I think this is a great effort, Scott Galloway. Thanks, and I mean a few things. One, I'm not telling people not to go to work or not to buy groceries.

380.153 - 396.664 Kara Swisher

I don't think someone who has the blessings I have is in a position to tell people to take risks with their employment or really sacrifice around things like food. What I'm suggesting is this is a signal and a framework for how you inflict the maximum damage with the minimum amount of sacrifice.

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