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Kash Patel Sues, Trump's Psychedelics Push, and Netflix’s Podcast Bet

21 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is Kash Patel's defamation lawsuit against The Atlantic about?

1.769 - 18.247 Matt Buchel

Hey, I'm Matt Buchel, comedian, writer, and floating head you may or may not have seen on your FYP, and I'm starting a brand new podcast. Wait, don't swipe away. It's called That Sounds Like a Lot. You know that feeling when you check your phone, read a few headlines, and think, that sounds like a lot. I can't do this. Well, I can, and I'm going to get into it every Friday.

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18.487 - 28.989 Matt Buchel

You can watch on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to start by breaking down whatever insanity is happening in the world, and then I'll sit down with a comedian or actor or writer or, honestly, anyone who responds to my DMs.

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Chapter 2: How is Donald Trump leveraging psychedelics for mental health treatment?

29.229 - 36.383 Matt Buchel

This is not the place to get the news, but it is a place to feel a little bit better about it. That Sounds Like a Lot, coming May 1st, part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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37.747 - 59.33 Scott Galloway

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Chapter 3: What recent U.S. actions involve the Iranian-flagged cargo ship?

59.771 - 68.968 Scott Galloway

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71.075 - 82.307 Unknown

Support for this show comes from the Futurology podcast. With so much changing every minute, it can sometimes feel useless to think more than a few days ahead. But looking at what's to come can completely reshape how we take on the future.

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82.527 - 92.718 Unknown

And that's exactly what they're talking about on Futurology, a new podcast from the Berggruen Institute featuring some of the world's brightest minds focused on what the future looks like and how to design a better one.

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Chapter 4: What implications does JD Vance’s return to Pakistan have for U.S.-Iran relations?

93.198 - 105.101 Unknown

Subscribe to Futurology wherever you get your podcasts or watch full episodes on YouTube. You're an influencer. We got to take you to Coachella and just have you take pictures and not enjoy the music.

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108.649 - 113.199 Scott Galloway

Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Kara Swisher.

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113.5 - 114.341 Unknown

And I'm Scott Galloway.

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Chapter 5: How did Anthropic's meeting with the White House go?

114.582 - 118.21 Scott Galloway

Hey, Scott. I just flew in from San Francisco and boy, are my arms tired.

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119.455 - 123.922 Unknown

Yeah, I've heard that joke before. I know. Why did you come back or what's going on?

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123.982 - 132.976 Scott Galloway

Why did I come back? That's a very good question because I love San Francisco. I spent the weekend with my beautiful son. I helped him on his job. He's campaigning for a city council guy.

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Chapter 6: What is Netflix's strategy for entering the podcasting space?

132.997 - 134.399 Unknown

I saw that. Those were cute pictures.

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134.419 - 137.764 Scott Galloway

Yeah, we had a great time and we cooked and we went hiking.

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137.924 - 139.607 Unknown

Let me guess, hardcore Republican?

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139.587 - 145.633 Scott Galloway

No. But I was there because I was on Bill Maher, and I went to Gwyneth Paltrow's house to do a podcast.

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145.653 - 150.918 Unknown

Oh, yeah. I saw you. I tuned in. I almost never watch live TV, and I tuned in live.

Chapter 7: How are Netflix's earnings reflecting its market position?

151.018 - 155.302 Unknown

I thought your interview was good, not great. I thought you were great on overtime.

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155.803 - 159.847 Scott Galloway

Oh, well, thank you. Why was my interview good, not great? Thank you, sir.

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161.188 - 172.674 Unknown

I just felt like it never really got going, and I wanted to hear more— I should have just started with, I thought you were great and I thought you were especially strong on overtime. Thank you.

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172.895 - 174.478 Scott Galloway

That's okay. Don't worry about it.

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Chapter 8: What are the future trends for podcasting and media consumption?

174.498 - 180.492 Scott Galloway

Anyway, it was good. It was actually, I had an enjoyable time. It was Rahm Emanuel and Jake Sullivan, which was interesting.

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180.692 - 185.423 Unknown

Yeah, yeah. I love the producers. They're the total Friday night lights like parents everybody wants.

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185.504 - 201.311 Scott Galloway

Yes, they're great. They're really wonderful. And everyone was great. It was really nice to be there. And Ari Emanuel made an appearance because Ron was there for a second, yelled at me when I was in the makeup room and then ran. So he's turning 65, by the way. Good job getting to Medicare, Ari.

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201.331 - 204.716 Unknown

That guy looks good. Ari Emanuel looks very good for 65.

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204.797 - 214.329 Scott Galloway

He looks good. All the Emanuels are in good shape, I have to say. I was doing a bunch. I went on John Lovett. I did a lot of press for this CNN thing. Let me hear your gripe. Go ahead. Gripe away.

214.549 - 230.425 Unknown

Just like members clubs and streaming platforms, I join everything. Anything, I'm like, whatever, Paramount, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, until I unsubscribe. But I generally join everything. I could not for the life of me find where to watch your goddamn show.

230.466 - 231.667 Scott Galloway

Right, which you're on.

231.807 - 257.361 Unknown

And I went on CNN.com and typed in, I typed in Kara Swisher wants to live forever. I got your trailer, but I couldn't find where to sign up to download the program. I'm like, okay, folks, what's the point of producing this content if no one can find it? So I like Mark Thompson. I like the people at CNN. But as I always say in business and in relationships, get the easy stuff right.

257.341 - 272.515 Unknown

If somebody wants to watch it, the first search result, the first thing in AI, the first thing on your fucking website when someone types in Kara Swisher wants to live forever, should be how to watch. I spent a half an hour and I couldn't find the show, Kara.

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