Can transforming neighborhoods help kids escape poverty?
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Wysina Williams still remembers the day she went to go watch a public housing tower near where she lived in North Philadelphia get knocked down.
I assumed that it was going to fall over. So I don't know how, like you heard dynamites like six times go off.
Then it was like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. The tower was part of a development called Cambridge Plaza. Wysina and some friends had walked over to see just what happened when you blew up a 14-story building.
We was like, oh, it's going to come down on us and all this other stuff. No, actually, it came down, but it came. That's probably so much. That's why they say so much smoke comes up because it just like smashed itself down.
That demolition was part of this massive federal program started in the early 1990s called Hope Six. Congress wanted to do something to deal with all of these incredibly rundown public housing projects around the country. Hope Six provided money to demolish hundreds of those projects and, in a lot of cases, to replace them with newer and better buildings.
Wysina, she herself lived in public housing. She grew up in a low-rise development nearby called the Richard Allen Homes.
What were the Richard Allen Homes like?
Depressing. Like, we went to school and came home.
Because it wasn't safe to be out on the street.
So let me use you. And you had to come to Richard Island. You had to roll past like, I'm not coming in there. Or you was greeted, probably a gun to your car. They probably would have thought you was coming to get drugs. So it was petrifying, really.
And how well maintained were the buildings?
So we had lead. The paint was chipping. All the color was brown. The floor was brown. The wall was brown. You know, it wasn't, it just wasn't bright. It wasn't happy.
So Wysina was thrilled when she and her mom and her son and her sister were allowed to move into a brand new home in Richard Allen, funded by Hope Six.
It was a relief. It was peace.
What was the HOPE VI program and its purpose?
Our windows open. We have fresh air. We control our heat. I had my own space. I loved it.
From 1993 to 2010, 262 different public housing projects around the country were knocked down and replaced with Hope Six money. So think like Cabrini Green in Chicago, the Desire Housing Projects in New Orleans, and, yeah, the Richard Allen Homes in Philadelphia. Beat-up old projects were knocked down and, in a lot of cases, replaced with public housing that was newer and safer and more connected to the neighborhoods that surrounded them.
But there wasn't enough funding to redo all of public housing in the United States. Some folks got to live in newer, better buildings. Others, they were stuck with the older, worse buildings. And in that way, Hope Six created a kind of nationwide experiment.
This experiment, it had the potential to change how we help people in public housing, but also how we help people in all these other kinds of low-income neighborhoods. Our country is really segregated economically. Hope Six tried to reverse that. It tried to transform neighborhoods with really concentrated poverty into neighborhoods with mixed incomes.
And if that approach worked to lift people out of poverty, maybe it could become a model for poor neighborhoods all over the country. But no one really knew whether that HOPE VI experiment actually worked. Until now.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–2:55
2
What was the HOPE VI program and its purpose?
2:55–5:52
3
How did HOPE VI impact the lives of residents?
5:52–17:37
4
What were the outcomes of the HOPE VI experiment?
17:37–26:53
5
How does neighborhood integration affect children's futures?
26:53–28:04