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The ICE hiring boom

25 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.908 - 3.053 Seth Stoughton

This is Planet Money from NPR.

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6.34 - 20.352 Darian Woods

In the last year, the Department of Homeland Security says 12,000 new agents and officers have joined U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. This was an unprecedented hiring boom that more than doubled ICE's ranks.

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20.534 - 27.561 Waylon Wong

The agency was aggressive in its recruitment efforts. It waived age requirements and offered signing bonuses of up to $50,000.

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Chapter 2: What recent changes have occurred in ICE hiring practices?

28.602 - 34.668 Waylon Wong

The Department of Homeland Security says it's deploying agents to remove the, quote, worst of the worst from the U.S.

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34.969 - 57.072 Darian Woods

This large ramp-up has turned ICE into arguably one of the fastest-growing and most scrutinized workplaces in the country right now. That's because its performance is highly visible and at times questionable. The majority of immigrants caught up in this crackdown have no criminal convictions. Many have legal status and even U.S. citizens have been taken into custody.

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57.533 - 77.303 Waylon Wong

Recent surveys show an increasing number of Americans saying the immigration crackdown has gone too far. Some politicians and community leaders are even calling for ICE to be dismantled. Others say they need better training or a culture shift or both. Are those changes needed and would they even make a difference? Hello and welcome to Planet Money.

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77.543 - 81.878 Waylon Wong

I'm Waylon Wong, normally a co-host of Planet Money's daily podcast, The Indicator.

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82.219 - 83.363 Darian Woods

And I'm Darian Woods.

83.596 - 106.752 Waylon Wong

Today on the show, the ICE hiring boom is having domino effects. How has training new officers changed and at what cost? Also, the Trump administration has plans to pour billions of dollars into warehouses for mass immigrant detention centers, which can totally change the economy of some areas. We hear from a rural town in Georgia that wants an ICE facility in its own backyard.

116.283 - 130.683 Waylon Wong

The Trump administration's massive tax and spending law gave $750 million to something called the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers. These are the facilities that train recruits for ICE, U.S. Border Patrol, and U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

131.163 - 134.989 Darian Woods

Mark Brown taught at the main campus near Brunswick, Georgia, for five years.

135.409 - 139.375 Mark Brown

I enjoy training. I like when the light bulb goes off, so to speak.

Chapter 3: How has the Trump administration's policy impacted immigrant detention?

423.047 - 432.304 Seth Stoughton

If that's what you're told to do by your supervisor, and if that's what you think the peers around you expect you to do, that's what you're going to do.

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432.689 - 449.135 Waylon Wong

But Seth and economist Matthew Ross say they expect the administration to face multiple lawsuits over how ICE and other federal agencies are conducting their immigration crackdown. Seth doesn't believe that the possibility of costly future legal settlements will motivate the administration to change its current tactics.

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449.616 - 476.307 Seth Stoughton

One of the things that we've seen from ICE, at least, and from CBP, is... an approach to accountability that I think communicates to agents that it's just performative. That really removes one of the legs from the stool that we use to get officers and agents to perform as professionals.

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476.908 - 484.735 Seth Stoughton

The financial incentives alone probably aren't going to do anything, especially not with an agency that just views that as the cost of doing business.

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484.917 - 506.267 Waylon Wong

For her part, DHS spokesperson Trisha McLaughlin told us that ICE recruits get the same training they always have. By the way, DHS confirmed to NPR last week that McLaughlin will be leaving the agency. She's been the administration's public face in defending the mass deportation policy over the last year. Earlier this week, a former ICE lawyer spoke at a forum held by congressional Democrats.

506.247 - 524.076 Waylon Wong

He said the agency's training program was, quote, deficient, defective and broken. Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal's office also released documents it said came from ICE whistleblowers. The documents appear to show that new ICE recruits are getting 250 fewer hours of training than previous cohorts.

524.857 - 546.295 Waylon Wong

In a statement this week, DHS said again that ICE officers are getting the same amount of training as before. After the break, we look at how ICE is planning to spend over $38 billion on detention centers. One rural town in Georgia is trying to balance the economic benefits with detention associated with an ICE facility in its own backyard.

552.383 - 557.432 Sergio Martinez Beltran

There are about 71,000 people in detention right now, which is a record high.

557.472 - 572.417 Waylon Wong

So at this point, you might be asking yourself, where are these increasing numbers of people being held? To help me explain all of this, I'm joined by NPR's Sergio Martinez Beltran. He covers immigration. Welcome to The Indicator, Sergio.

Chapter 4: What is the significance of the Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers?

586.117 - 606.927 Waylon Wong

The Trump administration has dramatically changed how we as a country approach immigration enforcement. Remember, there were millions of removals under President Obama, but the majority of those removals were at the border. The Trump administration is going hard on enforcement in the interior, picking people up in cities like Minneapolis and Chicago.

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606.974 - 618.247 Unknown

And we know Trump is ambitious. His administration has said it even wants to be able to carry out even more detentions. The goal, Waylon, is to be able to detain about 93,000 immigrants all at the same time.

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618.587 - 629.64 Waylon Wong

And DHS has a lot of money right now to follow through on these big ambitions. Despite the shutdown over the agency's funding, it got a big chunk of change from the so-called Big Beautiful Bill.

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629.958 - 640.169 Unknown

The administration plans to spend more than $38 billion of those funds to build and expand its new detention facilities. They'll be located in big cities, but also in small towns.

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640.49 - 644.054 Waylon Wong

And you reported on one of them in Georgia. Can you tell us about what you found?

644.274 - 659.931 Unknown

Yes. So I want to take you to Folkestone, Georgia. It's a rural community of close to 5,000 people, mostly Black, with about one-third of the population living under the poverty line. It's also home to one of the largest ICE detention facilities in the U.S.

659.911 - 668.466 Unknown

Glenn Hall was the administrator of Charlton County, where Folkestone is, and he is very blunt about what he thinks having this center could mean for his county.

668.787 - 682.879 Glenn Hall

I won't put it in the words of quid pro quo, but we are supporting a major federal policy with this administration. And we need a hospital. We need emergency medical care. We need dollars.

683.4 - 701.809 Unknown

He told me that as a county administrator, one of his jobs was to focus on jobs, you know, and creating them. And this is an opportunity for that. What's now the ICE facility used to be a state prison, but it closed. And in 2017, the GEO Group started running an immigration detention center out of it.

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