Ed Martin: My Battle with the Deep State Inside the DOJ

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What does Ed Martin say about the “deep state” inside the DOJ?

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Ed Martin 0:30
The deep state is real. I'm an advocate for uh reimbursing people for the costs that they incurred based on weaponization. If ninety percent of uh of the good gu guys of you know, guys and gals conservatives vote, uh we win everything.
Miranda Devine 0:44
Welcome to Pod Force One. Today's guest is Ed Martin, who is uh or was recently the pardon attorney under President Trump in what he called Donald Trump's Year of Mercy. Uh before that, he was briefly the acting US attorney for the District of Columbia. And he also led the Justice Department's anti-weaponization efforts. Uh he's now left the department to head up something that Donald Trump is uh calling some sort of a special project. So we'll find out all about that and a lot more from Ed Martin. Thank you so much for joining us today on Podforce One. Thank you for having me. Now, Ed, obviously you've just left, so I really want to pick your brain about the inner workings of the Department of Justice, which has been such a thorn in the side for Trump and Conservatives for many years, but particularly under uh Joe Biden.
Miranda Devine 1:44
Um so Donald Trump is saying that you've now left the DOJ to take on uh legal. battles for the midterms at the end of this year and also beyond. So just briefly tell us what that's all about.
Ed Martin 1:59
Well, you know, uh it we when I was with the president that the last meeting we had about ten days ago, we were talking about our history. Um, I actually was uh I I worked for the late Phyllis Schlafley, the the iconic leader, and she was early for Trump and I was early for Trump. It was twenty fifteen and we were talking about that and he was saying he loved the he gave he gave a speech at her funeral, uh a brief eulogy, and he said she never wavered. He said she never wavered. I always loved That phrase and we were talking about that history. And then we were talking about I was leaving. And um, you know, the focus is I was leaving in time for the election this fall because I wanted to be able to play a role in uh in helping.
Ed Martin 2:36
And uh that's that role includes uh being part of the legal effort and working on you know protecting the election. Also in going out and telling people, and your your uh podcast is a great example, talking to folks and saying, hey. Hey, look what we've accomplished. Look at the stuff we've done. We could talk about things that we didn't get done yet that we wish we did. And I'm happy to do that. But there's a lot that's been done. And Donald Trump has allowed it to happen. His people have done it. And you got to get out and vote. And so as we were talking about that, he and I, you know, were just talking about the importance of the fall elections and that if if 90% of uh uh of the good guys of you know, guys and gals, conservatives vote, uh we win everything.
Ed Martin 3:14
If eighty percent vote, we lose everything. So yeah, we've got to get the people out to vote. So and then the conversation turned, and and he knows that I have worked for many years on election integrity issues and have a deep uh interest in it. And he said, you know, in 2028, we're gonna need to be smart about that. And I mean I he still harbors uh hopes that the Save America Act passes. I think most of us realize the Senate is not gonna do it, so uh we're gonna have to fight other ways. But come come 2028 and in the run up to that, we've really again got to redouble our effort to protect the elections, both in terms of the public policy and in terms of the legal uh assertion of rights and and and protections.
Ed Martin 3:48
So there's a lot to do.
Miranda Devine 3:50
Yeah, and let's uh talk about that meeting in the Oval Office.

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