Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick.
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Chapter 2: What memories does David Archuleta share about his childhood in Utah?
And so they believe that sacrifice, you can find joy in the journey. You can find joy in the sacrifice. And sacrifice brings God's blessings. So you kind of learn how to have a smile through your hardships.
And repress maybe a lot of, you know.
Yeah, because you're not allowed. We were taught that anger was bad. Yeah. So you kind of, you learn to suppress a lot of emotions. Right. Anger. But then it would come out in other ways. Mm-hmm. And behind closed doors.
So if like there was a neglectful marriage, like where the husband or the wife were being abusive or something, you don't talk about it because it's like, we're not supposed to talk about the negative things. We're supposed to focus on the good things. Right.
And this is my hardship that I'm supposed to find the joy in instead of maybe having boundaries for yourself where you go, no, no one should accept this. Like you think, well, this is just my plight that maybe I'm supposed to accept.
Yeah. But you know what I was going to say? I think where Catholicism is very similar to like with like Latter-day Saints is the fact that shame is such a big part of life. the culture. And so I think that's, what's really interesting also about like secret lives and Mormon wives is you see how shame and confession is such a part of the culture, which I think is really sweet.
It's beautiful because I think it's something that a lot of other people don't And don't feel like, Oh, that's not really a part of their lives and their mentality and their culture and community where you feel a need. I feel like Mormons do a lot of times overshare.
Yeah.
And I think you see that with the mom talk, like they're sharing way more than they probably should be. But, and, and like in a way that it's like, I realized what I'm doing is wrong and I messed up and stuff, but it's like really beautiful. The honesty behind that.
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Chapter 3: How did American Idol impact David Archuleta's career?
But I also realized as I wrote it, like a lot of other performers and entertainers Some of my friends, even songwriters and things, but have... They would say I related most to the dynamic between you and your dad in the book. So I don't know if you know people who've... I mean, I didn't even know it until they brought it up after reading the book where they're like, I...
They're like, I'm in this business. And we all had it in common that we had a parent, like at least with my friends, we had just this last week in Nashville, I was with some of my friends and they also had dads who were, just like a stage dad and controlling in a bit.
And I was like, oh, this is, I didn't realize how common this was because my friend who encouraged me to write my book was Jeanette McCurdy, who she talked all about it in her book.
I know, her memoir is also one of my favorites.
Yeah. So it's, I was like, wow, this happens a lot. Like where we, a lot of us who are doing what we're doing, There's also like a bit of resentment in what we're doing because it's almost like we lost a parent in the process of getting here because we had a parent who helped us get here. But in return, they're not really like our parent anymore. Right. And I think you kind of mourn that.
So it's like, would I rather have... It was like, would I rather become famous and a star and have this attention and potential to live comfortably with money and income and be praised for my work I'm doing in craft? Or would I rather have my dad and just have him as a dad supportive?
And, and I, there was a lot of times where I, it was like, to me, it was like, I would rather not have any of this. I would rather not have the attention. I'd rather have a job where I'm struggling more. If it meant that I could just have a dad like normal and who looked out for me and, and was proud of me. And I didn't feel like my,
love the love i got from him was conditional based on how well i was doing right it wasn't tied to performance and yeah yeah we uh so writer strong who was on boy meets world with me who played sean and is my co-host on pod meets world his son has recently started getting into voice acting
Um, and one of the things I think is so smart about what he's doing is he, of course, writer's been acting since he was, you know, 10 years old. He knows everything there is to know about the industry. And yet he refuses to be his son's coach. He said, I will hire someone to play, to do that role for you. I'm just going to be your dad. I'm going to be your dad. I'm going to support you.
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Chapter 4: What themes are explored in David's memoir, 'Devout'?
One of my friends like didn't talk, hasn't really talked to their dad for a decade. Another one, it's like complicated. And like, I didn't talk to my dad for like seven years. And because you kind of have to like teach them to, I don't know. I don't know why that's such a common thing for a lot of kids who started in the entertainment industry young. I'm so glad that you didn't have to.
you know, that same dynamic. But I feel like a lot, like at least, you know, me and Jeanette, I know, I feel like those are some examples off the top of my head. Just, it was so intense. And my parents wanted to live vicariously through us, but they didn't want us to grow up out of their And, you know, Jeanette's mom wouldn't let her bathe on her own until she was 18. I know.
And there are a lot of things where it's like, I felt like my dad wanted me to be a little kid, even up until my 20s. Like I had the mentality in a lot of ways of a kid because my dad didn't want me to grow up and think for myself because it would mean that I would not need him anymore. And so I think we come from parents who... Had abandonment issues. They had trauma themselves.
And so it was, it was just very interesting. Like, but, you know, I would try to let my dad, if we fought and stuff, I'd try to let him know. I'm like, hey, dad, you know, sorry this happened and I just wanted to let you know I love you. And my dad would say, well, if you really loved me. Then you would letābasically be like, you would let me be in charge of your career. Right.
But you don't, which means you don't love me. And what kind of son would treat their dad like that? And, like, that kind of talk wouldāI think it just made me be like, I'm supposed to love this man, but I also feel like I need to protect myself from him. Because I don'tāthis doesn't make sense. It's very confusing. Andā The talks that led to me writing my book, Devout,
with Jeanette, like we would meet together and talk about, and it would just feel like this back and forth of feeling validated and seeing us like, Oh my gosh, you went through that too. Oh my gosh, I went through that too. Oh my gosh, this is what that happened with you and your, your mom, like that happened with me and my dad. And it was just kind of, and our parents knew each other.
So like my dad was friends with her, her mom and Jeanette and her mom would come to like some of my shows and my music video shoots. And, um, I would like go over there and like visit her mom because her mom was in the middle of fighting her cancer.
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Chapter 5: How does David reflect on his relationship with his father?
And it was just kind of wild. And we also had like the Mormon dynamic as well. So we both grew up LDS. So we felt this like kindred, like this... like this bond in those two different ways.
There's a shorthand that you were, you know, somebody who doesn't know anything about LDS or the entertainment industry or that parent dynamic. There's so much stuff you get to skip of being like, of course, you know what that's like. So even just saying like, so we were at church, she knows exactly what that means to be a church and what the church days are like and, and all that dynamic. Yeah.
To feel so seen by someone and to have so much in common and then to have actually been in the same circle.
And I feel like when we would talk, a lot of times we would hide behind our parent because we didn't really have an identity without them. So she would be like, yeah, my mom, as long as my mom's okay. Like she wasn't doing anything for herself. And I feel like that's made it, you know, acting a very complicated thing for her because she was like, I'm doing this for my mom. Yeah.
And she felt like she was doing it to keep her mom alive. Right. And so for me, I think the same thing of like, well, I'm singing and the better I sing, the more my dad will be happy and okay and feel fulfilled. And so it makes you really gain this complicated relationship with your art and craft. Because it's like, yeah, I love doing it. And I get acknowledged and praised for what I'm doing.
But it's so attached to my parent that I really don't want to be associated with this. It's like a bittersweet thing because like you're praising me so much, but I don't know. how to see myself in this because my dad's so involved in this. And he, I have to do it exactly the way he wants or else I am gonna get reprimanded for hours.
Like he wasn't like shouting in my face or anything, but it was like this literally would spend hours. It's like, you need to improve it. You need to correct what you did wrong.
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So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and... Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
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Chapter 6: How does David describe the culture of the Mormon community?
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I know your youth was very heavily connected to the church. What did you do for fun? Did you, I'm sure there were fun moments. What did you guys do for fun? You and your siblings.
Yeah. So. When I lived in Florida for a little bit with my older sister, we'd love to go out and play with ducks just hanging out in our backyard area. There's a pond behind the fence of the townhomes that we lived in. We would find a way to break the fence open and escape out so that we could go catch tadpoles.
We'd always get in trouble for it, but we would go and we'd steal some of the duck eggs.
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Chapter 7: What challenges did David face regarding his identity?
He was like, sing for them. Do it. And I was like, I don't want to. Yeah. I really didn't want to. I didn't like to be put on the spot. I didn't like the attention. Yeah. So I think it was hard. I've had to learn how to like attention, but I didn't like it to begin. I was like, I would have been fine.
I used to say, I would write in my journal sometimes as a teenager, like a young teenager before American Idol and things. And I was like, I'm like, why am I even a human? I'm like, I would have been completely content if God just created me as a rock and made me a rock in the middle of the desert where I can just be by myself, bask in the sun and just fulfill my existence in that way.
I'm like, why do I have to get married or have children?
Yeah.
I'm like, why am I here? I'm like, I guess I have to appreciate being a human and whatever comes with that. But I was like, I just would have loved to have just been to myself and kept to myself. I loved rollerblading just by myself alone in the neighborhood, saying hi to all the widows and retired people because I was homeschooled. So a lot of times- No friends your age during the day.
They're all at school.
They're all at school.
So I'd just be like, hi, Mrs. Gillespie. How are you?
Oh my gosh. Did you have a Mrs. Gillespie? No, I just made that up. Oh, okay. I love that. I love that name. No, I would have like, we would call, I mean, most of my neighbors were, you know.
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Chapter 8: What insights does David offer about the pressures of fame?
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Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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