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Pod Meets World

Gamebox 1.0 Meets World

04 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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This is an iHeart Podcast.

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13.134 - 19.525 Danielle Fishel

Guaranteed human.

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You know, Steve Carell is a great singer. Can you tell you not to audition for The Office or something?

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23.836 - 27.746 Will Friedle

I told him. Whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot.

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Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

29.992 - 35.185 Danielle Fishel

Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I am the Therapy Gecko. I am an unlicensed lizard therapist who takes phone calls from real anonymous humans about their problems, such as this. Sometimes I'll have my girlfriend pre-chew spicy food and kind of baby bird it into my mouth. Is that weird?

53.714 - 77.625 Unknown

This week on Therapy Gecko, we're hearing all real, authentic human stories about anything from relationships to family drama to serendipitous encounters with unexpected people and things. If real people pique your interest, this is the podcast for you. Listen to Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

78.348 - 88.322 Danielle Fishel

I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on. A Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman.

Chapter 2: How do Ryder Strong and Will Friedle's personalities influence their fans?

522.999 - 524.902 Danielle Fishel

That's like I'm leading the workout video.

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524.962 - 526.184 Theo Henderson

Correct. Yeah. No.

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526.205 - 544.977 Danielle Fishel

The best. Yeah. Don't. Because that means you have to move around like you need your hands to do stuff. Yeah. You know? No, that doesn't denote authority. No. That denotes that you're going to be working out or singing or dancing. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not you're saying Britney Spears didn't denote authority. She did as a singer or as a dancer.

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545.357 - 545.558 Theo Henderson

Yes.

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545.578 - 563.201 Danielle Fishel

Which is what she was doing. Right. I also need to be able to imagine what I could accomplish if I could just I mean, I do. I could wear I could clip a microphone on my shirt. But like that idea of like, I'm going to wash the dishes. My grandmother used to have one of those that she could wear on her head to talk on the phone while she did the dishes. But, like, the full phone.

563.241 - 566.527 Danielle Fishel

It was one of those ones, like, the entire phone stuck there. Have you seen that infomercial?

566.547 - 567.328 Theo Henderson

No. It's the full phone.

567.829 - 578.588 Danielle Fishel

You literally just clip the thing to an actual phone receiver, and it's, like, people like, I hear you great, Bob, as they're, like, she's doing the dishes, but it's a full phone in her thing. Like, that's, I miss that stuff.

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You miss that.

Chapter 3: What are the main themes in Gamebox 1.0?

3334.01 - 3358.65 Danielle Fishel

Well, I do think there was a point of... Maybe it's very, maybe this is very deep. Where the illusion of control, the illusion of you, no, you pick these characters. And then when he refuses to do it, they're like, we didn't want to have to do this. It's that idea. And I think it's also like who he picks explains something about him. Right? Yes, about his life.

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3358.67 - 3380.697 Danielle Fishel

So it's like even though they can read the memories, allowing him to choose like who the villain's going to be, someone he doesn't like, who his friends are going to be, that is just... Okay. Yeah, you're right. I guess it's just another test to read his brain probably more, to read his choices. Okay. It's like a survey. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay.

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3380.737 - 3381.177 Unknown

Love a survey.

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3381.197 - 3401.166 Danielle Fishel

But yeah, what he should have done is taken a photo of his ex-girlfriend because that's the only... No, because it also can read the memories of her. It reads everybody's memory. So she's there without him doing anything. He already has. They've already faked his friend calling. So it was like, well, then what? Huh? Well, at a different house, it's really good.

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3401.327 - 3420.697 Danielle Fishel

At a different house, Charlie's guy friends and Michelle, the typical girl forced to watch boys play video games, they're gathered on the couch. Charlie immediately asks Michelle, mind if I take your picture? Like a real creepo. Yeah. And he says it's for a video game. And she says no, because she looks terrible. Worth noting, she looks great. She looks great.

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Yeah.

3421.218 - 3440.165 Danielle Fishel

Instead, Charlie takes a picture of his friend, John, with what looks like a vape pen. Yep. That little thing he's holding a laser pointer or something. Yeah. Maybe a cat toy. Yeah. I thought it was pretty good production design, actually. I thought it was cool, because it's like, you're like, oh, this is a weird, futuristic-looking object, but I don't know. Yeah, okay.

3440.185 - 3453.383 Danielle Fishel

What bothered me about this scene was the amount of video game noise. We get it. They are playing a video game. I don't need to hear it the entire time. It was like, Jesus Christ, turn down the video game. I'm trying to watch a movie here.

3453.403 - 3453.764 Will Friedle

Lower that.

Chapter 4: What happens to Charlie after he chooses the crime spree option?

3479.2 - 3495.437 Danielle Fishel

Like, he's so sad. I get it. The girl dumped you. Get over it. Right. I was like, we need to, like, have a reason to like this guy. And sure enough, here we get it. Wouldn't you know. She didn't just dump him. Uh-uh. She did.

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3495.417 - 3519.531 Danielle Fishel

and here's where i was like so this is the dumbest shooting in the history of the world before you get there before you get there guys when you find out when somebody says his girlfriend was shot yeah and because she's dead she was shot and killed They just move on. Hold on. So many questions. Somebody was shot. What? How?

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3520.292 - 3520.472 Theo Henderson

Why?

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3520.853 - 3537.443 Danielle Fishel

She just lets it go. Happens a lot, apparently. Can you imagine? It's not. Like, Jesus. How many people you know have been shot? Like, you want to know about that? Like, what? Tell me. Jesus. Especially how it actually happens. Yeah. Yes. Oh, it's a crazy story.

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Let me tell you. She walked into a fence.

3540.247 - 3549.119 Danielle Fishel

You don't remember this story? She chose the wrong vacant lot to walk into and a cop shot her. What? Jesus Christ. Oh, you won't believe it. You didn't hear about this shit?

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Shit, I should have let him take my picture. I'll take off my shirt.

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Charlie's like, it's like tragedy. He should be suing the LAPD right now because he could have made millions of dollars.

Chapter 5: How does Charlie's relationship with Princess develop in the game?

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That's literally mid-laugh. Like, ha, ha, ha. Let's go to the fence, Charlie. I'm like, oh, God, what's happening? This is the worst shooting in history. Oh, well, back at Charlie's, he's looking sad as hell. It's really good. In his living room, watching old videos of him and Kate at the beach. He's chasing her around and telling her to do a sexy dance.

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This was freezing when we did it, so this was the only time we were ever outside of the little green screen in the real world.

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3591.261 - 3591.842 Theo Henderson

Oh, right.

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3591.962 - 3618.253 Danielle Fishel

Well, this and the shooting. are your only scenes outside of green screen outside of green screen wow and uh and it was freezing like 7 a.m at the beach and uh you know we had approximately one hour and it was like all right let's get all the footage we could possibly get yeah um because etch-a-sketches don't work that well in that cold so you got to uh yeah you got to get it as much as you can

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Charlie turns the TV off and shifts his focus to a framed photo of Kate nearby. He grabs the vape pen and is about to take a picture of her, but he decides against it. Instead, he puts the headset back on and he learns about his next step, to take a picture of who the video game villain will be. The game will be enhanced if he captures someone he truly hates.

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Charlie grabs a scrapbook and opens it to reveal a newspaper clipping of a police officer. The headline explains he was responsible for a shooting and acquitted of all charges. Charlie gets a black and white flashback of him and Kate jokingly sneaking into a gated area. Broad daylight!

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What?

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I have so many more questions now. It's like, it's answering why she was shot, but all it does is create, okay, why were you breaking into a vacant lodge together? How was this so close to the beach? Why could, I mean, if it was at night and you were going to break into like, you know, have some fun, sexy time in a place somewhere that you weren't supposed to be.

3678.128 - 3688.775 Danielle Fishel

If it was, I don't know, but why does he shoot you too? Like, my God. You got both your hands up, you're laughing, you're like, ha! Boom. Yeah. You don't reach for anything.

Chapter 6: What challenges does Charlie face while trying to save Princess?

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Nope. Right. Or if we were like. Are you doing drugs, sir? Please. Anything to even make him feel threatened in any way.

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You reach into your purse.

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3713.97 - 3745.682 Danielle Fishel

I mean, something. But it was just you walking like, this is the best day ever. They don't see a cop on the other side. This movie's good. And when Kate sneaks in first, the cop tells her to freeze and then shoots her right in the chest. Did you get the squib? I did. Did you get all squibbed up? Did it burn at all? No. Okay. That's good. Have you been squibbed ever, Ryder? No. Never.

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3745.722 - 3762.158 Danielle Fishel

You've never been shot in anything. Is that true? I think that's true. I don't think I've ever gotten squibbed. I've been around squibs. I've seen them. Do you want to explain to our dear listeners what a squib is? A mini explosive with a condom full of blood.

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Yeah.

3763.179 - 3775.317 Danielle Fishel

And then it just pops and the explosive, usually they pre-rip the clothes too so that your clothes look like they blow out. I mean, they're really not used anymore because now it's all visual effects.

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It's the only time where back in the day a condom full of blood was a cool thing.

3781.668 - 3802.04 Danielle Fishel

God, I've never been squibbed. It's fun too to like, I mean, I've never been fully shot up, but I had one done for, and then you've got, have you ever been in anything where you're, where they're shooting, like they're ricocheting around you. So it's like a tree's exploding and like popping off things. Like that's fun too. Is that kind of that movie magic, like old school movie magic.

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That stuff is really neat.

Chapter 7: How does the game conclude and what is Charlie's final decision?

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Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. I am the therapy gecko. I am an unlicensed lizard therapist who takes phone calls from real anonymous humans about their problems, such as this. Sometimes I'll have my girlfriend preach you spicy food and kind of baby bird it into my mouth. Is that weird? Or this. I had my boyfriend over and I had dirty dishes everywhere.

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And I put the dirty dishes in our closet so he wouldn't see them. If you're the kind of person that would enjoy being a fly on the wall of a stranger's therapy session, or if you pass people on the street and constantly wonder what might be going on in their heads, this is the podcast for you.

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This week on Therapy Gecko, we're hearing all real, authentic human stories about anything from relationships to family drama to serendipitous encounters with unexpected people and things. If real people pique your interest, listen to Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across.

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When Jacob met Levant, this went to a billion dollar fraud.

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