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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. I'm very curious how you guys are going to feel about this, but I just decided I need to go on a...
I guess a grammar rant? A writing rant? Going on a grant?
A romant? A romant. Let's talk about the double M dash. Oh, the surefire sign of chat GPT? Yes.
What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Okay, you don't know the double M dash. I don't know chat GPT. I've heard of it, but I've never used it. No, just a double M dash as a grammar, as a quotation. Oh, yeah, of course. The two dashes in a row. Yes, the punctuation mark. Of course. For the two, then it becomes one, right?
It's like a slightly longer than a hyphen, longer than a dash. Okay. So I first discovered this in college when I read Emily Dickinson, who uses it throughout her poetry. And at the time, it drove me crazy.
I was like, what is this thing?
Just put a colon or a semicolon or a comma. What are you doing?
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Chapter 2: What are the hosts' thoughts on grammar and writing?
And then something turned in my brain through the course of college. I became obsessed with it. I started using it in everything I write. And it become, when you know how to use a double M dash, for the last 45 years of my life, it's been my secret weapon. It's like, it's the thing that most people don't put into their writing that you could always separate.
I mean, you never had to use parentheticals the way like other people use them. You never had to use a stupid semicolon, which is just like the worst thing in a sentence. It was just elegant and perfect. And by the way, my double M dash style was different than the way AI uses it. I spaced on either side. So I would do a space, double M dash space, then letters. That's the way it should be.
One of my favorite uses, James Joyce, never used quotation marks. I hate quotation marks. I just can't stand them. All the best books don't use quotation marks. James Joyce wouldn't use quotation marks. He would just double M dash. And then you'd have a line of dialogue after that. Brilliant. Yeah. just so elegant, so easy to read.
And now- You have so much punctuation you hate.
Yeah.
I didn't realize you would say, you're like, I semicolons. Yeah, I can't stand it.
Quote, exclamation point, exclamation point. Yeah.
You know, when you spend your time writing, it's like, this is what you, yes. So I, yes, I have passions about this. And it's so ruined.
by ai right now like because now everybody knows that if you use double empty and it's ruined because ai was good enough to realize the secret power of the double m dash they knew it them they what do we what do we call it it's the anyway do not give it do not give it personality so skynet
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Chapter 3: How does the use of double M dashes influence writing style?
No, I know. Of course not for writing. Yeah.
but still just for searches, knowledge, you know, and I still believe that the, that we should be engaging with in some way, but, or because we kind of have to, because it's like, you have to just keep up, but I'm not sure in what way to engage with it anymore, especially not in writing. Like I just, you know, I've gone full circle. Like it was like, this is so funny. This is so interesting.
Oh, this could be useful. Oh no, this could be awful. And that's sort of the awful stage. But I'm like, uh, But I still, you know, you have to keep up with everybody else.
The head of one of the major studios gave a talk not that long ago where he literally said, he goes, no, the future is AI writes our scripts. Our scripts will be a C, a C minus when they come out from AI. And then we just have to hire a writer for a quarter of the money to rewrite said script. And that's the future. Which is such the backwards way to think about writing.
The actual words on the page are so interesting.
insignificant compared to the strength of the ideas or the strength of the imagination that goes into it right yeah and you can't always separate those two things but of course especially when it comes to filmmaking the scripts has to has to come from a human place a personal uh you know emotional place when you're outlining the structuring the words the actual dialogue are like the last thing you worry about that's like the the icing you know on the cake it's not the cake and so the idea that you would like
do that as the writing and like leave the actual deep structure, like real writing work to AI is just the most asinine thing. Yes, it's the future. It won't work though. I mean, like I have confidence that it won't work because I think people will see through that or feel through that. You know, like the nature of our art will be crappy for a while and then people will overthrow it.
I mean, like now, if anything, we gravitate more towards strong, unique voices. And so I think that it's like the problem for me.
Do we?
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Chapter 4: What unique perspectives do the hosts share about character development?
There's a baby.
There's a baby.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Welcome back to the baby.
In just four episodes is eight.
I know.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That's all I kept thinking. And looks completely different. Yeah. Like the baby's like blonde.
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Chapter 5: What insights do the hosts share about Eric's character development?
Yeah. Okay.
Maybe, maybe two, because I mean, I mean, the model I'm thinking is the haircut. Right. But he did multiple scenes. I know he did multiple scenes. So that kind of destroys my argument, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe one set, you know, like he. Yeah.
Like they're only associated with like one set.
One set.
Yeah.
Okay, then we're in the Matthews kitchen.
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Chapter 6: How does the discussion highlight the importance of parental support?
Alan is telling Feeney and Amy all about Eric's impressive people skills and how great he's doing at the store. Am I to understand that this was his first day?
Yes. And it's like, why would you not know this about Eric? This goes back to like, just explain. Like, oh, he's doing it again. He's charming everybody. That's all it takes. You can have the same scene, but just refer to the fact that, you know what? Everyone loves him and I can't get rid of him. Yeah, look, it's fine.
Yes. Yes. This is something we've talked about with my older son already. Adler can be the mayor.
Chapter 7: What comedic moments arise from the hypochondria storyline?
He's going to be the mayor of the con the way Will is. Adler, anytime we're at the baseball field, he knows everybody. And when he sees somebody he knows, he'll be like, I'll be right back. And he runs over there just to say hi.
It's because he's looks maxing. He knows.
He's looks maxing. He wants everyone to know he's there. He's Sigma. He's Sigma.
Okay.
Yeah, he's mogging in every picture. And it's like he's. That's so awesome. What a great life skill. Yeah, we talk about it all the time with him that both Jensen and I say, I admire you. We say it to him. I admire your people skills so much, Adler. I know that about my six year old. How do they not know this?
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Chapter 8: How do the characters reflect on their futures and aspirations?
By the way, being able to do that is absolutely a superpower.
It really is.
Walk into a room and own the room. It is a superpower. It really is.
It doesn't matter what situation we put him in. He's just started a dance class. The only reason he agreed to do the dance class was because he had another male friend that was already doing it. He went to the first dance class. That male friend was there. Every other dance class, that kid has not been back. Adler's never once batted an eye. He just walks in and immediately gets right to dance.
Friends with everybody. Gets right to it. You put him in soccer? All right, I'm here to tackle this. You put him in baseball? I'm here to tackle this. It doesn't matter where you put him. New camp? Got it. I'm here. I am.
So awesome.
It's incredible. Is he still doing karate? Still does karate. Yeah. He's karate, baseball, basketball, dance.
Damn. You have no free time at all?
No, none at all. Absolutely none.
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