Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know. Tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy? Not quite.
On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Jim Gaffigan to Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Who's the worst singer in the group? The worst?
yeah me is there anything to the idea that because you're from harvard uh you only got in because your parents made a huge donation to the group the yard birds right that's the name the harvard yard but they're open do you have a name suggestion we're open since you guys are middle-aged uh one erection
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Therapy is fantastic, but once again, it does not have a monopoly on healing. That's why I create the resources and that's why I create the community because I really just want you to have more access.
On the podcast Cultivating Her Space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where Black women can show up fully and be heard. It's tough because we're suppressing our emotions and so many of us are like high achieving individuals. Listen to Cultivating Her Space on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Chapter 2: How did Rider's passion project, The Red Weather, come to life?
Um, Birthday's over. It's time to fight.
It's time to argue about pineapple on pizza. I do love pineapple on pizza, but I could go either way. I could go either way. I'm not like, I'm not willing to die on the hill of pineapple on pizza, but I do enjoy it. So listen to each their own, you know, it's like whether you put peanut butter on one half of your slice of bread or it's just whatever.
Will is being intolerant. I'm accepting of all pizza types, but Will is being completely intolerant. There's right and there's wrong.
Well, there was one thing I really wanted before CPK and that was a nap. I had been out of town the weekend before my birthday. We had gone to Vegas for the Steve Irwin Gala. And so, you know, we had some late nights and we drove. So I had Sunday was we didn't do the smart thing and get up super early and leave before traffic. We like left at the same time everyone leaves. Oh, yeah.
That changes the whole trip. So it took us, you know, we left at like 11, 15 in the morning. We got home at 10. 5 PM. So we, you know, we, I was tired from that. And then I, you know, worked on Monday and then Tuesday, my birthday, I thought, all right, I got to do a podcast in the morning. And then I have a pitch meeting at 3 PM in the afternoon. I've got a long stretch from like 11 AM to three.
What am I going to do?
I want to nap.
So that's what I did.
Walk me through it. Were you on your back? Were you on your side? Did you go a mask? Dark room. Walk me through it like we're on a date. What did you do? Here's how I did my nap.
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Chapter 3: What real-life inspirations influenced The Red Weather?
I responded to a bunch of happy birthday texts. I did my other meeting that I had at three. And then we went and picked up the kids and went to CPK. I had something that Ryder will probably also not like. I had the tostada pizza. Wonderful. Which is thin, crispy crust, melted Monterey Jack cheese, black beans, salsa sauce. This is not a pizza. It's a taco salad. Masquerading as a pizza.
Lettuce, ranch dressing, and avocado sauce.
Will, you're okay with this?
I absolutely am. But pineapple? It's delicious. Pineapple's not good.
Pineapple is recognizably pizza. That has tomato sauce, and it just happens to have one thing you don't like on it. But this is a whole other, there's ranch dressing. Again, you're taking it to a whole other realm at this point.
So my oldest brother, Gary, when he finished college, decided to buy a motorcycle out of nowhere, never ridden a motorcycle in his life, drive it all the way across country to California and get a job. And where did he get a job? CPK. And so when he left, he taught us how to make all the pizzas.
So I still, Sue and I do barbecue chicken pizza night or one they don't have on the menu anymore, which is my favorite in the world is the BLT pizza.
Oh, I used to love that one. Anything with avocado on it, I'm in.
It's so good. So it's like lettuce. Yeah, you do. You do the lettuce on the side, then you put it on top of it. I'm a big fan. It's so good. And you're going to be like, wait, that's exactly what I'm talking about. One of my favorite things in the world is a combination of hot and cold at the same time.
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Chapter 4: How does the podcast explore themes of friendship and loss?
He's going to be 47. He's going to be 47 this November.
So he's my age. Yeah. Do you all believe in the, so 40, 41, 42. you're in your early 40s. 43, 44, 40. No, actually, to 43. 40 to 43 is early. 44, 45, 46 is mid-40s. So you're still, so 40, 45, you're still mid-40s. I think I'm just late for it. No, I think after 40, I think it's just five plus. You'll be late 40s this December.
When you turn 47, you can start saying late 40s if you want.
I'm going to be early fifties.
Well, you're actually going to be 50.
Yeah. I guess that's different. That's a different thing. Just saying 50.
Yeah.
When you're on, that's a milestone. You're on the milestone. Yeah. You start getting people like, Oh my God, you made it. Yeah. I have a friend who was, yeah, exactly. But I have a friend who was like, cause Alex, my wife turned 50 and this friend, I was saying, Oh, we're going to celebrate her birthday. She was like, you know what? It's so much better.
The second you turn 50, then everybody comments about how great you look. Whereas when you're 49, it's like, Oh, you're just that age.
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Chapter 5: What role does music play in the storytelling of The Red Weather?
I'm Daniel Fishel. I'm Ryder Strong. Well, for now, I love mad, old, angry Ryder. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Daniel. Well, she took a goddamn nap. Good for you. All right. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Nick? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Yeah, a pretty wide range of podcasts are out there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with the name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it, and...
Well, we were thinking of originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. Oh, wow. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy? Not quite.
On Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Jim Gaffigan to Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guests, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Who's the worst singer in the group? The worst?
yeah me is there anything to the idea that because you're from harvard uh you only got in because your parents made a huge donation to the group the yard birds right that's the name the harvard yard but they're open do you have a name suggestion we're open since you guys are middle-aged uh one erection
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Chapter 6: How do the characters in The Red Weather reflect real-life dynamics?
I want to talk about it. And also, we have had so many fans who have loved the red weather. And after... I don't know how many times you said our regular Pod Meets World fans are going to hate this, but... but you said it at least 10 times while you were talking about the show.
And we kept saying, no, I don't think, I think you're wrong. Yeah, no, I was pleasantly surprised with how much crossover there was. And I think I knew that there would be a certain contingent of our fans that would like it. But yes, the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive and heartwarming and awesome. Yeah. Yeah, and I am so thankful for our listeners who have, you know, given it a chance.
If you haven't given it a chance, you probably don't want to listen to this episode. Maybe. Because we're probably going to be spoiling a lot of it just by recapping the episodes and talking about what happened. So if you haven't listened to The Red Weather, you like true crime, you like mysteries, you like me, give it a listen. At least the first two. Yeah, at least the first couple of times.
You don't have to like Ryder.
No, no, no, I'm saying at least the first two that I've got to like. They've got to like Mysteries.
Yeah, you don't really have to like Ryder. They don't have to like Ryder. Oh, I see what you mean.
That's what I'm saying, yeah. Ryder, where did this idea come from? Will you tell people about your love for true crime? Yeah. I mean, I love all podcasts. I mean, that's part of the reason why I came up with the idea for Pod Meets World was because I've been listening to podcasts since 2007, 2008. We've talked about this. You were the first time I think I'd ever heard the word podcast. Yeah.
And, like, the first podcast that I really got into, which I think is part of why I was optimistic about Podmeet's World, was called Skeptic's Guide to the Universe. And it was, you know, anti-pseudoscience podcast. But the whole idea was that it was a group of really smart scientists. sitting around talking about medical facts and, you know, diving into subjects.
But really what you came to realize is it was not about what they were talking about. It was just about them hanging out, which is like, you know, I realized early on was like what I liked about podcasts and what I think most people like about podcasts, which has turned out to be the case. Like most podcasts are, you know, people just discussing a subject in general.
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Chapter 7: What challenges did Rider face while creating The Red Weather?
Um, like I remember calling my mom and asking to be taken home several times. Um, yeah. So there was, you know, there was that, that it was around, you know, like that sort of, and that's a big part of this show was I wanted to interrogate that, that time period, um, both, you know, negatively, but also somewhat positively. I mean, I think that that's kind of where I came out is like, um,
you know, I, I find that, that time somewhat, or I find that, that culture scary, you know, like the idea of like, uh, people living together or not having like the classic American nuclear family. Um, but then I also think that a lot of like exposure to interesting ideas and, um, Like, you know, I grew up in a very tolerant area. It was very gay friendly.
It was very open minded in so many wonderful ways. And like for all the like fear mongering that I do on my own about red weather within red weather, Sebastopol is lovely. And like most of the people I grew up with are super healthy. They're super down to earth. It's an amazing culture of like accepting, you know, so I sort of like take the most exploitative version of my hometown.
In a lot of ways, like the version of Sebastopol that I created for Red Weather is like, Much more closer to like Humboldt County, which was always a little edgier when I was growing up. Like if we, I used to go backpacking up near like the Cinque on Wilderness and Lost Coast and we'd go into those towns and that would be a different vibe.
And the reason that that was a different vibe is because it was truly the heart of the marijuana industry. Yeah.
And it was so illegal. Right.
So you had a lot of these people that went up there. You know, in the sort of 1960s, 70s hippie moment, they like went up and bought lots of land and it was beautiful. And maybe they started communes or they just wanted to live off the land like my parents did.
And then what happened is that that culture, because they primarily were funded by weed, that culture got very libertarian and very like isolationist culture. And so what started as a sort of, you know, hippie, free love, flower child, you know, peace, love, and happiness vibe quickly became a like paranoid isolationist.
You're gonna protect your crops with guns. You're gonna protect your crops.
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Chapter 8: What are the final thoughts on the impact of The Red Weather?
Dad tells story where this is what happens. Right. And I knew that that would happen and then I could comment on it appropriately. Um, Yeah, but then there are some actors who I... We would get together and they would do the dialogue as written, and then... It would, you know, and this isn't a knock on some actor. Every actor is different, right?
Like some actors can say word for word, verbatim, and make it sound so natural and human. And in fact, I would say with one of my actors who did that, whenever they tried to improvise, it was, it rang false. Do you know what I mean? Like that was the, and it was just like, no, no, no, you need to do this as written. And then there were other actors who we just had to throw out the script.
Because we'd be recording and I'd be like, it's not working. They would know it's not working. We'd be like, let's try it again. Yeah, say it in your own words. Yeah. Maybe the most fun was my friend, Chris Lemke, who I wrote the part of Elric, who is the sort of cult leader. I came upon this idea.
I was like, oh, I could have Elric's voice because, you know, there's the question of like, who's alive from the case that I want to have in the present tense? Who's dead? And I was like, I want this guy to be mysterious. And, you know, because to me, it gets to the heart of like this whole question of was it a cult or was it a positive commune thing?
And so I was like, oh, what if I found his lecture tapes? Like, what if he had like a self-help series? And this was based on, like, I definitely know people who've subscribed to like tapes where they get these, like, you know, especially back in the day, they would get these self-help. Right. So I was like, ah, that would be so cool.
And what if, you know, in order to get those tapes, like I wrote it for like my friend, Chris Lemke, who's this incredible actor and I've known him forever. And he's a very intense guy and he's very smart. And I was like, okay, I'm going to write
a little bit, you know, that I know will help the story, but then I'm also just going to give him like a tape recorder from the 1990s and be like, Hey, just record yourself in character. And he, he took it and went away for, I think it was like six weeks. And when I got back, he had filled four tapes of lectures for me. And I would say 75% of what's in the episode is, is, is,
just him improvising in character. Lectures, like he would talk, you know, he asked me to like for some background information and we would text throughout the, like he would send me texts and I was like, what about this? And so we were constantly in somewhat of communication, but for the most part, he was recording by himself, walking through the woods. He went out into the desert.
And so then when I got those tapes, he had one tape where he's like, here's all the lines written as they are in the script, I delivered them. And he's like, but then everything else was a little more improvisational or all over the place. And so I was able to go through those tapes just like Ryder the character was.
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