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Chapter 1: What led to the end of Trump's war against Iran?
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Chapter 2: How is the ceasefire affecting Iran's nuclear program?
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Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm Jon Favreau. I'm Jon Lovett. I'm Tommy DeTore. On today's show, the U.S. and Iran have signed a memo to end hostilities, allegedly, for now. We'll talk about it, as well as the implications for Iran's nuclear program, Israel, and our own midterm politics.
We'll also dig into Trump's 80th birthday celebration, which involved the much-anticipated White House-UFC fight, and lots of opportunities for him and his pals to make more money. Gavin Newsom just announced that Trump's goons at the Justice Department are investigating his wife in a bid to derail his potential presidential campaign. We'll get into what we know about that.
Then Tommy talks to Senator Mark Warner about the Iran situation and what the Senate can do and why he's pushing his colleagues to confirm Trump's new pick for DNI. Before we start, please consider subscribing.
Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Iran deal for midterm elections?
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Become a friend of the pod subscriber today. All right, let's get to the news. The Iran war appears to be over and Donald Trump has lost. U.S. and Iranian officials have signed a Memorandum of Understanding, shorthanded as an MOU, that extends the ceasefire another 60 days, reopens the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for ending the U.S. naval blockade of Iran.
and kicks just about every other issue to the next phase of negotiations, including Iran's nuclear program and economic sanctions relief.
Iran has certainly suffered significant casualties and damage in this war, but Trump's war didn't topple the Iranian regime, destroy its military or ballistic missile capabilities, end Iran's support for proxies like Hezbollah, or eliminate its nuclear program operations.
By the way, those were all of the objectives that Trump and Marco Rubio laid out way back in February and March when this whole thing started. Other than that, mission accomplished, which seems to be a face-saving agreement that lets Trump pretend he won, which he did shortly after arriving in Europe for the G7 on Monday.
The deal's outside, and the strain is already partially opened. As you know, they're doing a little hunting for a couple of mines.
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Chapter 4: What controversies surrounded the UFC fight at the White House?
These ships are starting to go out. Now, on Friday, it'll be completely opened. It's not like the Obama document, which was just a terrible document. I think it's going to be free-sailing. We do want to see if we can straighten out the Lebanon thing.
Where were they, by the way? That was the least presidential backdrop I've ever seen.
I don't know. I assume they're somewhere in France if he's with Macron. It's like they're on a porch or somewhere.
Yeah, I don't know where they were.
Anyway, the Obama document was terrible, and we do want to straighten out Lebanon, maybe. Lebanon. So the administration says the full text of the MOU won't be released for another day or two. But based on the details that have been reported, how does the deal look beyond the headline summary that I gave?
You know, the old Mike Myers thing, like, you know, the soup nuts are neither soup nor nuts.
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Chapter 5: How is Gavin Newsom responding to Trump's Justice Department?
Like, it's like, this is the replacement nuclear deal. It's not nuclear. We know that, but it's not really even a deal because presumably in a deal, both sides would have to concede something. And I can't figure out what Iran has conceded. I know what the US gave up, right? I know what we're, you know, there's a massive fund that they could get access to, sanctions relief. They may get a bunch of
cash. They get a ceasefire in Lebanon, which they want to try to constrain. Iran seems to have agreed to the nonproliferation treaty it already agreed to and to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, which was open 109 days ago. So this is not a deal. This is the U.S. surrendering in order to reopen the negotiations. It stopped when it bombed Iran.
This is a deal to temporarily deal with the fallout from the stupid war we started in hopes of maybe getting a full nuclear deal to accomplish our goals. I mean, you laid it out.
Chapter 6: What insights does Senator Mark Warner provide about Iran?
I mean, Trump described his goal as he did a video statement right after they started the war. He said, we're going to destroy their missiles and raise their missile industry to the ground. We're going to annihilate their Navy. We're going to ensure that the region's terrorist proxies can no longer destabilize the region or the world, then attack our forces.
And we will ensure that Iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon. I guess we like- It's the Navy. The Navy thing.
Maybe you get one. for four there?
Yeah, we took out your Navy, but they still had the Strait of Hormuz closed, so that doesn't seem good. So look, this is hard to message because this was the best deal available to Trump and for the world because it ended the war. And we were seeing economies in Asia collapsing. We could still see a global famine because of what was happening. But Trump accomplished none of his goals.
And I think we have to message that. And Iran now knows it can shut down the global economy at any time.
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Chapter 7: What are the economic impacts of the Iran war's conclusion?
by closing the Strait of Hormuz. And they could get hundreds of billions of dollars in sanctions relief. This is a disaster. And Trump and Netanyahu, Netanyahu actively tried regime change by killing the Supreme Leader. Trump was for it when it seemed like it might happen. But the net effect is there's now a younger, more hardline Supreme Leader and a more entrenched IRGC running the show.
And the United States looks like we're unreliable and weak.
I thought it was very funny that in one of his truths about this, Trump was like, I hereby declare the Strait open. And then you look at some of the fine print or at least some of the reported details. And before the war, the Strait was controlled by no one. It was an international body of water. And now it will be controlled by Iran and Oman together, apparently.
And so you don't really hear Trump talking about that, although he is saying it's toll free. It's toll-free, like the calls that we used to make back in the 80s and 90s.
Sounds like it might be toll-free for 60 days, and then Iran has plans to slap a toll on that shipping.
Yeah, they've said that they can charge fees.
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Chapter 8: How is MAGA world reacting to the Iran deal and its implications?
So that seems to be ā even that seems to be in dispute right now.
Yeah, also Trump is saying that it will be fully open by Friday when they sign the agreement. But when they were last talking about what the deal would look like, it was going to take 30 days to potentially remove the mines that are in place. And I don't know if I were ā If I were an oil tanker, I would definitely want to go after several. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be first.
A lot of like, no, no, after you. After you, Exxon.
No, no, no, after you. Every restaurant opening gets delayed. When you do a remodeling, it takes a while to get the kinks out.
You want to be the third or fourth oil tanker.
For sure.
Maybe fifth or sixth.
Can I read you guys one quote from a senior administration official? I'm pretty sure his name rhymes with Heidi Prantz. One of the really cool things and interesting things about this entire process that we actually have a direct relationship with a number of people at the highest levels of the Iranian government. You know you could have just called them and not killed like their whole family.
So the war was literally the friends we made along the way?
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