The girls are back from wedding bliss and diving headfirst into hot topics—from a possible Taylor Swift pregnancy to Diddy’s disturbing trial details. Chanler dishes on an unexpected urgent care visit, while Lauren unpacks blind items about Blake Lively’s rumored fallout with Taylor. They debate the Karen Read trial, analyze Meghan and Harry’s Beyoncé date night, and break down why a 24-year-old pageant queen is outsmarting all of us with $9 million in real estate. Drama, speculation, and Chanel denim slander—this episode has it all.[00:00–03:00] 💊 Post-Wedding Urgent CareChanler reveals her rough post-honeymoon health scare and how “traveler’s issues” sent her to urgent care.[03:00–05:00] 🌽 Mother’s Day & Corn Cob ShameThe girls reflect on a sweet Mother’s Day… until a corn-eating incident leaves Lauren humiliated.[06:00–08:00] ⚖️ Should They Cover the Diddy Trial?They discuss whether they should pivot into full-on legal podcasters and break down audience appetite for darkness.[08:00–10:00] ☕ Taylor & Travis Reappear!Taylor and Travis were spotted with both moms on Mother's Day, sparking pregnancy or engagement rumors.[10:00–12:00] 👜 The Chanel 25 Bag DebateLauren critiques Taylor’s controversial denim Chanel bag and the brand’s identity crisis.[12:00–15:00] 🤰 Engagement or Baby on the Way?Speculation: is Taylor secretly pregnant—or just shopping hobo bags with bad posture?[15:00–18:00] 💍 DeuxMoi’s Blind Hint + Pregnancy Test PanicA DeuxMoi tease hints at an engagement, while Chanler has her own pregnancy test scare.[19:00–21:00] 🧐 Karen Read Trial Talk BeginsThe girls passionately defend Karen and wonder why the supposed “cover-up crew” seems so bad at covering up.[21:00–27:00] 🧪 Karen Theories & Cocktail Glass DebateIn-depth theorizing: how did the glass stay intact? Why did no one text about the body? They’re confused and obsessed.[29:00–32:00] 📣 Taylor Subpoenaed in Blake LawsuitTaylor’s fiery denial of involvement in “It Ends With Us” is dissected line by line.[32:00–35:00] 🚫 Girl Gang Fallout: Blake is OUTWith Blake uninvited from Gigi’s party and Travis unfollowing Ryan, it looks like Taylor is officially over it.[35:00–38:00] 🔥 Blind Item: Blake Tried to Seduce Justin?!A wild blind claims Blake made a move on Justin… and Taylor may have spilled it to Brittany Mahomes.[39:00–42:00] 🧨 Diddy Trial Breakdown (Warning: Graphic)Shocking opening day testimony is covered, from assault to bribes to male escorts and control.[43:00–45:00] 👑 Jordan Hudson’s Real Estate EmpireBill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend just bought $9M in condos. The girls are stunned and impressed.[45:00–48:00] 🧠 The Psychology of Jordan HudsonIs this 5D chess? They analyze the strategy and ROI behind her sugar baby-to-landlord pipeline.[49:00–52:00] 🤠 Meghan & Harry at Cowboy CarterThey break down Meghan’s outfit, Harry’s hat, and why this photo dump hits different.[52:00–55:00] 👑 The Royal Family’s PR GamesWith no signs of reconciliation, the girls predict Harry and Meghan’s fading relevance as the next gen grows up.[55:00–57:00] 💸 Brand Longevity Doubts for Meghan & HarryDo they have enough “product” to support the lifestyle? Lauren goes full monologue.[57:00–End] 🎤 Signing Off with LoveBack from the wedding and ready to spill all the tea, the girls close with love for the listeners and a reminder to subscribe for more!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.For more Pop Apologists, follow along at:@popapologists on InstagramPop Apologists on YouTubeTo support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What health scare did Chanler experience after her honeymoon?
I'm actually quite happy to be talking about something, you know, neutral, like bright and just. Versus my wedding. My wedding's amazing. I do still want to talk about it, but I'm just excited for, you know, new thoughts. I was actually wondering if you had any post-wedding anxiety you wanted to get through. Oh, I'll tell you what I actually did with post-wedding. Okay.
I spent the morning in urgent care. That's a little dramatic. I spent, like, 45 minutes in urgent care. Okay. With, like, the text. I would send her a mob set. I would send her a mob set. I would send her a mob set. I would send her a mob set. I would send her a mob set. I would send her a mob set. Well, mom, we love you. We love you. You don't have a flair for a dramatic at all. No, not at all.
Just direct. Yeah. If anything, you downplay your pain. Actually, I do want to talk about myself on this. I sure am. I need to do this next one. So anyway, everyone, I'm not going to get this one. I have been unwell, you know, in the nether regions. That's how it works. That sounds like kind of terrible. You're getting grosser then. I've been having issues going to the restroom. With frequency?
It's a frequency problem in terms of like it's too much often. So I'll leave it at that. And it's been going on for five days. This happened to me when I came back from India. Really? Oh, I remember hearing about your plate. It wasn't that bad for me at first. Maybe I didn't put something together. But you juggled this date like... I was in the restroom on the plane. No, not for days.
Once I got some Pepto-Bismol in me, not for proper medications, I felt an alleviation. We need to get off this topic. But no, I mean, definitely was in the cream restroom, the laboratory every three minutes.
yeah well I what started as a hangover on Friday has now resulted in an urgent care visit today because it hasn't ended and it's only gotten worse and I've tried to eat more normal foods anyway I have travelers You know, the cute wanderlust girls don't talk about it. They really do not. That's such a good point.
Were the people, I mean, do we need to say that for the people who are not watching this? I think they didn't even listen for, oh, yeah. So anyway, I am now on aerobics and working through that. Rightly.
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Chapter 2: How did a corn-eating incident embarrass Lauren on Mother's Day?
um and not publicly and not publicly privately and not publicly um but i do want to just briefly talk about how lovely our mother's day was we had a wonderful mother's day it was so nice because our own mother was there was present it's been a while since we've spent mother's day long i think yeah and so they went on a cruise right after a wedding and then they came back because their boat left for brooklyn harbor i didn't know
don't see cruise ships i don't know they leave from here i mean i don't know if they come down this river okay but they definitely i think they do depart out of new york why there's a big amount of water they went on a cruise and then they came back and they're here in town for another day it was so nice i will say i had a little bit of shame on the other side why so is like i didn't know courtney was having a party
And that she was hosting a bunch of friends as well. Yeah. I just thought it was us. So I did not look particularly cute. I just kind of came over looking disheveled. And I look cute. Well, thank you. You always look cute. But anyway, like I was like, your dishevel is very different from mine. Disheveled. That's true. We both know that's true. Yes.
Anyway, long story short, Courtney had her friend Meg there, who's then a founder of Dorsey. Yeah, she's a very chic, like, CEO, cool girl. Yeah, she, like, the first time I saw her person, she came down and stared at Courtney's house. I was like, who's this, like, friend of mine? Is there a lady in Courtney's house? I was like, has she taken out... I'd ask if Courtney had taken out the lover.
It was giving Jodi and Ruby. Yeah, but like not in any looks wise. Similarity. Just because the second wife was gone, somehow they were in the house. No, they're not lovers. They're just friends. Great friends.
and but May's was very chic and cool and she's a little intimidating and I I was at dinner and I just had this moment where I looked down at my corn on the cob and noticed that it looked like it had been eaten by a feral wolf and I looked at Meg's corn and she had demurely come at it with a knife and it was a clean like the rind was clean or the cob was crouched a straight edge I feel like it was like it was a clean it was like
Like eating corn at the palace. A hundred percent. And I was eating corn at the county fair. Okay. I saw you eating your corn and you were like hunched over. I was so starving that day. Anyway, I just realized I'm like, this is mortifying. This one was never going to be gone again. All my chances of being friends are gone.
And yeah, that was, and it was just, it was just a moment of shame on my mother's day. What else is happening this week? I mean, really just a lot of celebrity stuff to get into. I'm just happy to be doing a normal Paul the Paul in this episode, hitting the hot topics. I will say one disclaimer, everyone. Yes. Our producer, Scott, is frothing at the mouth right now. Foaling at the mouth.
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Chapter 3: Should Pop Apologist cover the Diddy trial in detail?
Frothing, foaling, something without milk. Froth or foam. Foals are being emitted. I also kind of associate that with, like, dying. Like, he has, like, yeah. Okay, he is just very interested in us. Chomping at the bit. Chomping at the bit. That's better. He's chomping at the bit for us to do, but I'll play it by play. I'm going to do a trial.
You just know he would love nothing more than when we did daily recaps on YouTube. I know. I think we should be doing something like it. Oh, definitely. Oh, definitely. I say this because I'm a person who's always been following the Karen Reid thing. I wished there was a plot master who was doing daily recaps. Of dating. Of Karen Reid. Yes.
And, like, there was a plot master that I already, like, tried and true loved. I can just, like, now tune into their cover of this thing that's happening right now. I love that as well. I am excited to high level go over Diddy and to touch on it and discuss it. I do not want to do a Johnny Duck Amber Heard level analysis and coverage. Why not? Honestly, no. It's just like too dark.
I completely agree with the article that I put in our outline. I was like, I want to talk about this song. Like, we're going to get into it. We're going to discuss it. But everyone, this is what I'm asking you. The whole point of this little segment, please let us know if you actually want us to give it, if you want us to become a dating podcast for the next couple months.
I personally would prefer not to, but if that's what the people want, we will do it. But I kind of feel like the people prefer us to be a little bit more light and girly and fun and don't really want to get into, like, full-time freak-offs. I think as well. We could always kind of, every 10 days or so, do a moment in score. Or do a little workout. But this is what's been happening.
Like, so much, like, these trials are just kind of quite worrying. Until there's, like, a big tidbit that comes out. No, it's so true. You know, but a daily read half or, you know, you can make a diddy podcast might not even serve our audience very well. It's also just so different for Johnny and Amber, which was on camera. And so that just was so much more riveting to watch.
But when you're just looking at illustrations and just reading the New York Times, like, timestamp report, it's just not as titillating. But you know what was titillating, Jennifer? Yeah. A stunning moment I had during Mother's Day. I was at the restaurant. Oh, we're back to Mother's Day. I was like, yeah. New restroom experiences. I fell in the restroom. It's classic.
And I raised the restroom without a problem. I tried them too.
because that was so horny i can't stand being inside my own brain i can leave the exact same way for more than two minutes i've been kind of in the earth though if i'm leaving the front excusing myself to go to the restroom and bring people oh no it's made down really bad it was set to show it's like okay we know you're off the deal this is yeah gross completely um anyway though it was a gorgeous moment on the toilet because there i beheld
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Chapter 4: Why are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey sparking engagement rumors?
And I just was so excited because I knew none of them had seen that yet because the news had hit nine minutes before. Yes. And we have our first signing since, Emily? March. March. Early March. I will say, too, we were with our, I would say, our Taylor Swift aficionado friend, Kelsey, who's in... She's in the group chats that we're not allowed to be in.
She's in the private discourse with the people who are very close to the queen herself. I actually don't know if that's true, but it just went right. I mean, she's in group chats that we're not allowed to be in. And we've been invited, too. And she is not giving us an invite at all. So...
i was so excited to break the news everyone taylor was in a kristy dawn midi dress for mother's day a floral mini dress and the new chanel 25 hobo bag oh it's a new chanel oh i clocked it immediately i've heard you say that i didn't know it i don't even know what was it big or what's the it's like it's a yeah it's like a hobo bag and it's kind of big it has a lot of hardware on it chanel has been going through a moment where i feel like it's
most of the women less chic it's just not as cool to be wearing chanel recently and the vibe is more minimal bags it's not all the crazy quilting and the hardware right right it's the motegna it's the row and so chanel has been doing a big push on this um chanel 25 and all the influencers are wearing it Ariel Charnas, who I refer to as Charnas because I didn't know her name was Charnas.
So anyway, Charnas is wearing it. Taylor now is wearing it. It's all over. I think Chanel is really making a big push to come back. Courtney, you don't have to raise that. I saw you pocket safe diaper bag. She was the ugliest bag I've ever seen. It's so ugly. First of all, I love Sharnice. I love Sharnice too. But I don't like the shape of it. Sorry. It's getting horrible.
You don't need it to look like it's a paper bag. It can be closed down. It's too busy. It's too much hardware. It's not of 2025, everyone. Can I just say, I hate the Chanel denim. You hate the Chanel denim bags. This one? It was right. I just don't like, I don't like that texture. I think I never, I don't know.
I don't order to be a max to be like, anyway, I don't want, I don't like the ombre of it all. It's like, yeah, it's just very busy.
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Chapter 5: What are the details of the rumored fallout between Taylor Swift and Blake Lively?
It's actually kind of the waist up. You can't see her front side. No, not at all. You think she's pregnant. I just think that she's either pregnant or engaged. Because you know what Duvall said on her podcast? She said, Taylor and Travis are better than ever. And that is what she said. She said, I cannot reveal what I know because I don't have permission to, but I've seen it for myself.
What is it? One of them. Wow. I mean, for sure. I can just imagine those two with the passion. You know, these are red-blooded Americans. Okay. I can just imagine them accidentally making a deal. I don't need a child growing in the garden in Tara's will. I didn't know. I actually think when you're a celebrity on that level, it's not that loosey-goosey. Oh, wow.
You think that maybe she's already had, like, her eggs frozen. Yeah, she probably cannot sell again. Well, yeah, I'm just not able to see that happening just in this, on her level. That being said, I would love nothing more. And, you know, I saw them take a pregnancy test this morning. I don't even care because they said it's routine. I was all light flashed before my eyes. When I'm now wedded.
Married. Oh, because you were nervous you could be pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh my gosh. And then, back to COVID, I was like, can you just stay on the phone with me until we know the results of this? I was like, I have to go to the bathroom. I'm so nervous, Robert. Why would you be so nervous about it? Well, it's just not on the right time. I love the timeline.
I feel like it's a good time for you guys. Well, Ben was like, they were like, we're enforcing right time. Oh my gosh.
see i mean it was like okay medium right time you guys like my diarrhea baby can you imagine that story you can name her diana that would be beautiful oh my gosh i'm crying um there's more taylor swift news it's coming but i do yeah i know i know it's coming up i do want to talk actually can we take a taylor swift break from the not 50s well there's a lot that i want to say about this oh you have something one one last thing to say i have this brunch
Their relationship has to be better than our work because you would not be doing, you know, lunch or brunch with both sets of in-laws together unless it was like basically endgame. I just really think that. I think that it's like the family's always going to get together, but I think Mother's Day with both mothers, that's a good game. I've done that with Ben Stanley and my family.
That's a really good point. That's a very good point. I also think, though, that when you have kids that are that high profile, you kind of just like, you come to the mountain, you know, and the future doesn't go to you. And so I could see it being a situation where it's like, I will be in Philadelphia. If you would like to spend Mother's Day together, you know, I'll send the PJ for you.
Why Philadelphia? I don't know. Who knows? Well, they had that restaurant that had the dessert menu, those sweet napkins. Do you think that was by, like, do you think they changed the menu for Taylor, or do you think that was just already on the menu? That's a great question, because you know they were prepped that Taylor was coming. Yes, of course. I think they changed it for Taylor.
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Chapter 6: How is Meghan and Harry's public image evolving?
And there was the news reports that she feels like she's been used and that she has been, uh, well, I forgot what the word was, but it's just another thing. She feels used. Additionally, Gigi Hadid's birthday party, where she, you know, went public minds for Bradley Cooper. Taylor was there, but Blake was not. That is just so, I mean, she's kind of out of the girl thing.
Okay.
Here's what I really think about this. What? Were you going to say what you really think before? I just want to say more things that I really think on this podcast. A great alternate title for girls. What I really think.
I feel like the Khaleesi thing is super annoying and it's really bad for Taylor because it makes her look like a bully and it makes her look like someone who, yeah, Blake can just, you know, set her friend on someone and use her for good or for ill. And Taylor carefully crafted a good girl, nice image. But I don't think it's the friendship ending type of text. Correct.
I don't think it's friendship ending type of text. I also think that if Taylor believed that Blake had been sexually harassed, There's not a chance she wouldn't be by herself. Or that a statement like this would have come from her team. A statement would have been, Taylor, you know, was never heavily involved in production of the film, but she remains close to Blake during this difficult time.
And she, you know, then we'll, how do you say the truth come out? And she supports her friend, yes. Is Timber Swift... teen Justin. I mean, I think I guess what I was hearing, I was listening to I was listening to a dissertation on this. And basically they just said like the whole reason why Taylor Swift is getting subpoenaed is just to basically show that Blake is a liar.
Just to literally show that Yeah, they're actually a little involved in the Catholic community. Like, we don't need to know the nitty-gritty of her and Taylor's relationship. We just need to know that all the things that Blake said that Taylor was doing were not true. It's just a really established way. He's a liar. Which is crazy.
He knew about her just being called, like, subpoenaed to basically only... Yeah. To make your friend look bad.
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: Is Karen Read's trial being covered up?
What I love about this is she got $30 million from Diddy. And it's put his ass in prison. Hell yeah. And so much of the time, it's like you get the money. And then you have to sign that NTA and stay silent. But no, she got that coin. And also, she's going to get it behind bars. And that is justice. Sweet, sweet justice. Mm-hmm.
um okay and sending me like good vibes i'm a lot of hot i can't believe she's like here in new york that's really crazy you're such a good fire so love just like make her hot it's probably gonna be a huge difference just like you too i'm like the words they are explaining you don't have to like just write down there right now as well You know what? I have a huge injury duty experience.
I feel like I'm, you know, I know the energy of those buildings. Maybe we can, Melissa, load it up and send some love and healing light and maybe she will feel it. Yeah. I think that, okay.
The trial is expected to last approximately eight to 10 weeks with Combs facing multiple serious charges, including racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. If convicted, he could face a life sentence. Okay, okay. Well, can we move on to lighter news? We can. I want to talk about two twin planes, Bill and Jordan.
Did you know that she just competed in a beauty pageant? Every time I hear about someone in a beauty pageant in this day and age, it's always a shock to me. But she just participated in the 2025 Miss May competition.
I feel like when it comes to beauty pageants, they make sense for a scholarship, for, you know, if you're just trying to get your career off the grid and you are, oh, I actually might need to enter some beauty pageants. So we're trying to get the word out about our podcast. We could. I would not. We could enter beauty pageants. Your boobs are ready for the beauty pageant coming around.
we can enter a beauty pageant to lose and then discuss the experience and that could potentially get some subscribers that could be a good roi on that um you know i find that beauty pageants if you are not trying to get a scholarship for me i'm sorry everyone they're they're just kind of like what i'm all i'm trying to say land the plane we don't need this you don't need this she has nine million dollars of real estate that's two hundred just for the bus
Do you want to know more about the real estate that you saw?
I do.
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Chapter 8: Why is Taylor Swift involved in a legal dispute over 'It Ends With Us'?
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