Stephen Colbert and late night

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Linda Holmes 0:28
Later tonight, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert comes to an end amid a lot of changes in the business and in the country.

What significant changes are affecting late night television?

Linda Holmes 0:35
Among the sources of tension, the economics of late night in an age of clips and streaming, the approaching merger of Paramount and Warner Brothers, and President Donald Trump's constant criticism of late night hosts, which has sometimes been backed by pronouncements from the FCC. But for Colbert's fans, the end of a friendly, funny, candid show. I'm Linda Holmes, and today we're talking about Stephen Colbert on Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR.
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Linda Holmes 1:44
Joining me today, of course, is Eric Deggans. He's a critic at large at NPR and also the night chair of journalism and media ethics at Washington and Lee University. Hello, Eric.
Eric Deggans 1:55
I believe this is the first time I've been on the show since I've become a full professor. So I am now officially a An absent-minded professor. I just want to note that here starting out.
Linda Holmes 2:05
That is awesome. I am excited to hear it. I am always proud to know you, but even more now that you are fully an absent-minded professor. And I will also say, you know, you and I have spoken about late night quite a number of times, I would say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

How has Stephen Colbert's role evolved throughout his career?

Linda Holmes 2:38
He played a fictional version of himself, a conservative firebrand talk show host. On the late show, Colbert was just himself, a warm and affable presence in interviews and more and more as time went on, a critic of Donald Trump. In July, CBS announced that the current season would be the last, citing the difficult economics of late night shows. But this also happened while CBS was seeking approval from the Federal Communications Commission for a multibillion dollar merger with Skydance Media. It also closely followed Colbert's criticism of CBS's decision to pay $16 million to settle a lawsuit Trump had filed over a 60-minute interview he claimed was unfairly edited. Colbert himself has said essentially that he thinks two things can be true.
Linda Holmes 3:21
The economics of late night have indeed become difficult, but also perhaps it was particularly appealing to end the show at this particular political and corporate moment. Eric, I want to ask you first, when you think about Stephen Colbert's career, what do you think sets him apart as a host?
Eric Deggans 3:43
What sets him apart as a host right now is I think that he has become fully this figure who embodies a lot of really interesting and wonderful qualities. He's super smart. He's passionate about a lot of subjects, including The Lord of the Rings, which anybody who watches the show knows.
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Eric Deggans 4:04
He loves his wife, who he's been married to for ages. He's deeply religious. He's Catholic. And he seems to be a good-hearted guy. And he's brought that to hosting The Late Show. And he was succeeding somebody, David Letterman, who didn't connect with his guests and really distinguished his show by provoking them on camera in very real ways. Letterman enjoyed... both making fun of the conventions of television and also provoking his guests to show genuine anger and genuine sort of negative feelings on camera to kind of puncture the false picture that these talk shows can often present.

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