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Marriage Is the Biggest Financial Risk You’ll Take — ft. James Sexton

03 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: How does money impact relationships and divorce rates?

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I asked my ex-wife what she wanted for Christmas, and she said, a divorce. And I said, that's way too fucking expensive. Listen to me. Markets are bigger than us. What you have here is a structural change in the world distribution. Cash is trash. Stocks look pretty attractive. Something's going to break. Forget about it. Ed, how are you? I'm doing alright. I'm in New York. Yeah, I'm doing okay.

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How are you doing? Well, that was fascinating, Ed. We don't talk about me enough. Okay, I'm doing great. I'm headed to Florida on Thursday. I'm going to take some time off. My kids are coming with me. They'll get to see their friends. And yeah, I'm super excited. I'm going to Los Angeles to get more projects going that will soon be canceled. Movie projects? Yeah, or TV.

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My book has been optioned, Notes on Being a Man. And it's either going to be a documentary or a... Seventh Time Lucky. Yeah, there you go. It's either going to be... I can mock my failure in Hollywood. You cannot. It's either going to be... Which You Like Better, a documentary on...

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On young men and the challenges they face, including solutions or an original scripted series that's sort of an R-rated wonder years. Original scripted series. Louis Theroux already did it, and he did it better than anyone could. Yeah, this would be a little bit different. Have you seen The Manosphere? I have. I thought it was one of the best documentaries I've seen in years.

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Well, let's talk about that. What did you take away from that? Honestly, I think my biggest takeaway was the fact that there is an entirely different media ecosystem that is flourishing online. beneath a lot of people's noses. And I mean, I thought Louis, the way he conducted himself was excellent.

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And I thought that the way he exposed what is happening and the messages that are being put out there by these guys was excellent.

Chapter 2: What are the red flags to watch for in a relationship?

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But honestly, I think the big takeaway, what I loved about it is that he shined a light on how huge these guys have become. And most people don't really know the names of these people. They don't really know who Justin Waller and Sneeko and H.S. Tiki Toki are. But, I mean, thousands, hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of young children love these guys.

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And so what he did was he showed, like, this is what is exactly happening. And he didn't... you know, you didn't really mince words about it. He literally went into the, as the documentary says, he went inside of it and he showed us what's really happening there. I thought the way he did it was just excellent.

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Even the way that they showed how the live streams work and the comments streaming in and how things get reposted and clipped up and repackaged. Like, it was really a lesson on how media works today in a way that I think a lot of people could honestly benefit from. The master starts off positive. The fact that

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there's a group of people or thought leaders trying to speak to young men, I think that's a positive thing. And it starts fine. Be fit, be action-oriented, take responsibility for your life, initiate action, and then it just comes off the tracks. It's all about money, it's all about dominance, it's all about the grift, it's all about misogyny.

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which is really a shame, but I have another theory I want to lay on you as a young person, and maybe we'll get Claire's reaction. So 80% of women under the age of 30 now don't have a kid. And I don't think it's because they've decided they don't like kids. I think it's because they're having trouble finding economically and emotionally viable partners.

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And also there's less venues for men to demonstrate excellence. And I think one of the ways that men demonstrate excellence, and bear with me right now, I think that the lack of bars, the lack of venues, the lack of people going out, I think the young people, I think we should have tax subsidies for places that offer dancing.

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I'm convinced that one of the venues for mating is when people dance, and now nobody dances. I just read an article saying the number of times a person under the age of 25 dances is off 60% because they're worried about being filmed and mocked. and that people aren't drinking as much, so they aren't dancing.

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And I remember, I go back, you know, everything is anecdotal here, but I remember in college, the initial stages of flirtation were dancing with somebody, and that we need more dancing in young people's lives. Anyways, Ed and Claire, more dancing? Could that be a solve here? I think that's one of the problems, but there are way more problems. I'm not suggesting it's the solve.

333.278 - 336.263 Ed Elson

You said tax subsidies, right, for places that offer it?

Chapter 3: Why are prenuptial agreements essential for couples?

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We spent a lot of time on this podcast talking about where young people are struggling and relationships are near the top of the list. Fewer young people are getting into relationships and even fewer are getting married. The shift is dramatic. 60 years ago, more than 75% of 25-year-olds were married. Today, it's less than 25%.

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So instead of asking why relationships are breaking down, we brought in someone who sees firsthand how they fall apart. James Sexton is a divorce attorney who spent his career on the front lines of failed marriages, making him uniquely qualified to tell us what not to do. He has been an attorney for 25 years and has earned a place in the top 1% of family law attorneys practicing in New York.

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So James Sexton, thank you very much for joining us on Prof G Markets.

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Thanks so much for having me. Great to see you guys.

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So I'll start with a question here. Something that we often talk about on this show is the fact that money seems to be a big problem in relationships. Some people say that it's the number one issue that married couples fight about. And we've also seen that it's actually the second leading cause of divorce behind infidelity. I'd just be curious to get your perspective.

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To what extent has money and money management played a role in the divorces that you've seen over the course of your career?

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Yeah, I mean, money is a tremendous piece of the puzzle. I think it's not just the money itself, but it's also what the money comes to symbolize for people. You know, I think people who grow up with economic insecurity... money comes to symbolize all the things they didn't have in their life. So it becomes, you know, money is a symbol of security.

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Money is a symbol of, you know, peace and tranquility, safety, a feeling of not being so afraid. So I think, you know, when that gets threatened, it creates tremendous distrust between parties. When people lose their jobs, when there's economic instability, when technological innovation changes the job landscape, that has a tremendous effect. I mean, there's a

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a high correlation between men losing their job and the divorce rate because there's a significant hit to a man, you know, as men being defined in many cultures as being, you know, the provider, the protector, feeling like as a result of factors beyond your control, you've lost your job, you know, is a tremendous difficult experience for anyone, but certainly for men when they're defined in their role as a provider.

Chapter 4: What role does economic stability play in marriage?

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I have a 26-year-old and a 28-year-old.

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So if you had—I would imagine at this point you're asked on the front end for advice around how to avoid ever seeing you or your colleagues. So you've talked really eloquently about some of the red flags in a relationship. If you were to advise people who are thinking about getting married and say – and by the way, I don't expect any of them to listen.

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I find that when people are in that situation, they don't listen to it. By the way, I found it is a no-win situation to tell your friend not to get married because they get married anyways, but they tell their spouse that you told them not to get married.

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Anyway, so what are the two or three red flags you would say you really want to be mindful of if you're thinking about getting married and a partner or in the relationship more broadly?

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I am very much a believer still in marriage. I think the value that a good marriage adds to someone's life is just beyond measure, and I think on every level. But I think marriage is like the lottery. You're probably not going to win. But if you win, what you win is so good that it would be really difficult to argue you shouldn't buy the ticket.

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And unlike the lottery, you can actually do things to improve your chances of success in a marriage. And I think the red flags are actually sort of the counter of what I would see as what you need to do for the marriage to be a successful and stable one. And I think... You know, you're a divorced man, I'm a divorced man. Like, we learn, I learn from my mistakes.

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I have to step on the rake in order to learn how to do something well. And I think sometimes people who've been divorced or have shepherded, you know, hundreds if not thousands now of people through a divorce, we get a very unique view of, okay, here's where people get things wrong.

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I think big red flags are the things that draw us together are sometimes things that in the long term are going to be hard for us to navigate. So, you know, you may love the fact that you're this disciplined, focused, really, you know, like OCD person. And she is, you know, more like, you know, free and easy. It's a barefoot in the park kind of a thing going on, you know. In dating...

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Like, you help her be a little more serious, she helps you be a little lighter-hearted. Man, that feels so good when you're dating somebody. But when you marry someone, those habits and that polarity that brought you together, it might start being something that's antagonistic, and it's going to start creating long-term issues. Because again, marriage...

Chapter 5: How has the digital age changed the dynamics of marriage?

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And I just don't think that's honest. I don't think you can have a long-term relationship with someone, have the changes, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune that everybody has in their life. And conversely, Thinking that marriage will change a person is another big problem. They are going to change, but they may not change in the ways you hope they would as a function of marriage.

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Like, you know, he drinks a little too much now, but once we get married, if we have kids, he'll stop that. Or, you know, he works a ton now, but once we get married, he'll make more time and he won't push it so redline. Like, I think sometimes the things we think are going to change don't and the things we hope won't do.

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And that leads, unless there's good communication, that leads to a lot of disappointment.

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So just to follow on here. So Ed's girlfriend is much higher character, much hotter than him. Is that a problem? Sorry. Couldn't resist. I've been waiting.

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I mean, listen, playing above the rim is excellent.

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I've been waiting for 10 minutes to say that. So let's talk about let's say that things let's say that things work out in a moment of weakness. She agrees to marry him. Give them advice. What are two or three best practices during the marriage that make it less likely they'll be in your office?

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I mean, you know, Ed, first of all, what I'll say is Scott and I are proof of the fact that, thank God, for good women with terrible taste in men. That's right.

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That is something you... Bad vision. That is a good thing, okay? So, yeah, when you're playing above the rim, realize you're playing above the rim. That's right. So that's a good thing. But, you know...

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I think one step I think is really important is to talk when you're not fighting about, hey, at some point we're going to disagree on something. What does that look like for you? Do you need a minute? Are you somebody that like, give me a minute so the emotion of it calms down and maybe we sleep on it, we'll talk in the morning? Or are you the, hey, we got to figure this out right now.

Chapter 6: What are the most common reasons for divorce today?

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to talk about, hey, when we disconnect, what's the best way to reconnect? The other thing is, I think that, look, man, we have all these gadgets, all these reminders, all these little watches and whoops and all the things we all use, you know? I don't think there's anything wrong with, you know, every day just taking a minute to remind yourself, hey, her, like, keep her in your line of sight.

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You know, we're busy people. We're hardworking people. We got a million things going on. We're spinning all kinds of plates. And any woman who's signing up for someone like you or either of us, they're doing it for, you know, a reason. They know we're as advertised. But take a minute, take a minute to just, because right now you're still trying to close the deal.

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You know, you're still trying to impress each other. And I think that if you can keep a little piece of that, like what does it take to send her a text message that just says, hey, I was in the coffee shop and that song came on that, you know, it makes me think of you. Or, you know, hey, you know, it was so fun on the couch watching TV with you last night.

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I'm so glad I have the prettiest girl in the world. You know, I caught her eye. What does that take, 30 seconds? That is the equivalent of her sending you nudes. Like that is for her, like that's flowers. Like you just sent a dozen roses if you send that, you know? And it's a lot cheaper and it's a lot easier. And it's something that, again, if you make a point,

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You don't even have to tell her that you put a reminder in your phone, but put something that just reminds yourself to just that little bit of connection. Because it's really easy for all of us to say, all right, I've got that. Thank God, you know, I found my person. I can focus on these other million things now.

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But take the time, like take the time to just keep that little bit of connection, that little bit of gratitude, that reminder that this is your person. I think that's a giant piece. And then the last thing I would say is, you know, I think it's really important to be able to share with each other. Again, I like things that are a practice. So I would say build into your week.

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You know, once a week, just have like a walk and talk or send each other an email, whatever works for the two of you and your dynamic. What are three things I did this week that, you know, made you feel loved? What are three things I did this week that maybe I could have done better? Make it fun. What are three things I did this week that turned you on?

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Like, I have to tell you, you'll be shocked. You'll be shocked. It won't be the things you thought. Like, it won't be, oh, you had to have eight-pack abs. Like, it was something like, oh, when the dog was running around and you wiped his paws off in the mud, you looked, like, so sweet that you were— That turns you off? Like, what, I've been doing my obliques in the gym? Like, what was that?

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You know, and the truth is, like— Never stop exploring that connection. I think that's so easy, so low percentage. It's free. That's why you don't hear about it because it's free. You don't have to buy anything. You don't have to get an app for it. Like there's nothing you have to do except that little bit of connection.

Chapter 7: How can couples improve their communication about finances?

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And I'm telling you, I think that keeps, that'll keep you connected to each other, keep you communicating with each other. If you add in that piece of what's something that I could have done better this week, that's then I think that starts to create a space where both of you feel like you can give each other pointers. Because I'd tell you, like, I'm 53 years old. I've been in therapy 20 years.

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I understand about 70% of this guy, and I'm in here, you know? Like, so to think another human being, I'm going to be able to navigate them perfectly? Like, you're kidding yourself. That's insane to think. So I think there's real value in creating habits of connection and communication.

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Chapter 8: What advice does the guest offer for maintaining a successful marriage?

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To learn more about SoFi Plus, head to SoFi.com slash SoFi hyphen plus. We're back with Prof G Markets. So James, I've read that 70% of divorce filings are now from women.

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And some of that is that women no longer feel economically indentured and that an increase in divorce rates in some ways represents progress in our society, but also that potentially women bring quote unquote more divorce energy to a relationship. And the data I saw that

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and I'm very open to pushback here, is that the lowest divorce rates are among gay men, second lowest, heterosexual couples, highest divorce rates, gay women. Thoughts on divorce energy by gender and different types of marriages and what you observe in terms of the likelihood of them deciding to end it.

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1555.062 - 1572.801 James Sexton

Yeah, I mean, those statistics are accurate. I think they're often weaponized in the wrong ways. So, you know, in the what I'll roughly call the red pill manosphere space, although, you know, our mutual friend Chris Williamson describes you and I and he as the gentlemanosphere.

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So we're sort of, you know, we have a male audience or a percentage of our audience that's male, but we don't have that sort of, you know, hardline position that made for an interesting documentary for Louis Theroux. I think the way that gets weaponized is this idea that women are somehow playing at the casino of marriage. And then when the chips get high enough, they cash out.

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What I think it really is, is the tendency of men more than women to go out for milk and never come back. And then what happens is the woman comes to my office or one like it and says he left. He left for his secretary. He left and I don't know where he is. And he's not paying the mortgage and I don't know what to do. And I go, okay, we have to file a divorce action.

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And she goes, wait, I don't want a divorce. I didn't ask for a divorce. He's the one who left. I want him to come back. I want us to figure it out or I want us to be civilized with each other. And I say, look, if you want that mortgage paid, if you want temporary child support, we have to go to a judge.

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And the only way to go to a judge, there's no such thing as an action for I'd like to work it out if possible. It's an action for divorce. So we have to file the divorce action. And I can't tell you the number of divorces I've done over the span of 25 years is a high number. But I would say...

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Very few of them have ever been a woman just cashing the chips out at the casino, whereas I've had a large number where the guy just leaves and the woman ends up having to be the plaintiff. And adding indignity to that is that very often that man will say later on, well, you're the one who filed for divorce. You know, you're the plaintiff. Your mom filed for divorce. So it's misleading.

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