Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Today's number 762,000. New York City experienced a significant reduction in water usage during Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show. In the 15 minutes after the show, the borough saw a surge in water usage equivalent to roughly 762,000 toilets flushing.
I wouldn't know about this as I turned into the Kid Rock concert as I like music for people who know the exact amount of Sudafed they're legally allowed to buy. Okay, you don't like that one? I like music for dudes who have weekend custody but still don't bother to see their kids. Ooh, warmer, warmer. Kid Rock makes music for people that use a breathalyzer to start their car.
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Listen to me. Markets are bigger than us. What you have here is a structural change in the world distribution.
Cash is trash. Stocks look pretty attractive. Something's going to break. Forget about it.
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Chapter 2: How does the global economic order impact the U.S. deficit?
I don't care. Yeah, I don't. I think the halftime show has become not a cultural reference, but a culture war. That's my fascinating insight. Oh, my other two pieces of insight, I always like to draw, and I'm curious to get your thoughts here. One, a quarter of the ads were for AI, right? And so this was kind of the AI bowl.
And the last time tech had that level of penetration of ads was in 2022 when it was FTX and Coinbase. And we saw what happened that year with crypto. And then Trivia question, when before that did you have more than a quarter of the ads from technology companies? I'm going to go with 99, 2000. That's exactly right, Padwan.
So if economic history is any indicator, basically this is a year that AI really shits the bed. Because whenever you have, and also, remember a couple years ago, all those ads for, and this is my second insight, remember when a couple years ago they had Cleopatra, and I forget that guy's name, from Curb Your Enthusiasm, and they were talking about gaming or betting sites?
You know, MGM Bet, it was dominated by these betting sites. I think this Super Bowl was the pivot in terms of an enormous transfer of market capitalization of value from the gaming sites to the speculation sites. And if you look at Flutter, all these gaming sites are shitting the bed
And there's now more dollar volume going into, or appears more mentions in social on the speculation sides, on CalSheet and PolyMarket. So it feels like there's a handing off of the baton. Anyways, those are my two economic insights that I drew from the Super Bowl. Any thoughts, Ed?
I think that's right. I think that's definitely right. I mean, I will say there was a lot of AI at the Super Bowl. There was also a lot of crypto at the Super Bowl. There was that very famous Coinbase ad. There was also a lot of prediction markets at the Super Bowl, a lot of gambling. A lot of weight loss drug advertising. I mean, we saw a lot of that stuff.
And I think for me, my takeaway was just how dependent on these few categories the growth economy has become. But it is interesting, the fact that, you're right, 2022, it was all... FTX, Binance, Coinbase, there was that, yeah, there was that incredible FTX ad, and then, of course, FTX imploded.
As I've said, I think that for that to happen, for a massive downturn to occur, you're going to need some sort of FTX-type event. You need some massive explosive event
um moment that really shakes up the story and just sucks up all the confidence in the room as i've said i think that if if we had to place bets that would happen to open ai at some point but it's going to need something like that you're going to need a trigger and right now i'm not so confident that the trigger is going to happen or at least when you look beyond open ai when you look at all these other companies that are managing their balance sheets relatively well
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Chapter 3: What factors contribute to the instability in the housing market?
once you view globalization in this way, the way the current administration in the U.S. is viewing it, suddenly that means it's bad for all the rest of us. And so it almost seems as though the world has come to a consensus now in 2026 that globalization is bad. It's not a good thing for most of us and for most of our domestic policies. What were your reflections on Davos?
And do you think that that characterization of globalization is true?
So my book came out a couple of weeks after Davos, but I was at Davos and got to talk about the book. And the reaction I got at the panels and closed-door meetings where I talked about the findings of the book was that it seemed to be a book for the moment. Of course, it had been written beforehand. A long time before that.
In fact, I should tell you that the first draft of the book was completed in October 2024, just before the November elections. And I had thought the book seemed a little too dark. So I thought, you know, let's wait for the elections and maybe rethink some part of the book. But of course, everything that has happened since November 2024 has sort of validated the thesis of the book.
And that's brought us to this pass where, as you pointed out, you know, one of the themes of the book has sort of validated by everything that has happened, including in the lead up to and what happened at Davos, which is that instability has become the norm in the world order.
And of course, globalization is only one of the forces I talk about, but there is a sense that while globalization worked very well at the aggregate level, it certainly pulled millions of people out of poverty in countries like China and India. It helped those countries and many other emerging market economies rise to middle-income status.
But within countries, especially in countries like the U.S., The benefits were not evenly distributed, and it created this very disaffected class.
Now, that part of the story is sort of well-known, but what is interesting is that that, in my view, has created this negative feedback loop where populist politicians or false populists, as I refer to them in my book, can start vilifying the other as the cause of displacement of workers from jobs and so on. And what do I mean by the other?
It could be whatever the politician feels gets traction in the voters' mind. The other could be the political and economic elites. It could be China. It could be immigrants. And why do these have so much traction, these attempts to pull in the politics of resentment, which is a phrase I use in the book? You know, the notion that the benefits of something like globalization
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Chapter 4: How do domestic politics influence economic globalization?
is that things look very good on the surface, whether you look at GDP growth, labor market performance, financial market indicators. Under the surface, if you take the doom loop thesis seriously, there are a lot of tensions building up that I think are really fraying the social fabric.
So let's double-click on the trouble beneath the surface. And I always feel like I sound like a boomer when I say this. $5 trillion in receipts, $7 trillion in expenditures. And people always point to Japan, you know, greater debt to GDP than the U.S. Well, Japan looks like it's starting to get wobbly.
At what point does $7 trillion in deficit George Washington to George Bush, and then another $30 trillion in deficit spending George Bush to Trump, At what point is that something below the surface? And if so, when do you think it appears?
I think the reality is that if you look at government expenditures, you know, interest expenditures on government debt have been rising and they're sucking money away from more productive investments. So going back to my discussion of productivity, that really matters. is a crucial issue. You know, we don't quite know why productivity in the US is doing so well. I mean, we have some guesses.
AI may be an important part of it. Maybe the deregulation that we've seen over the last year is an important part of it. So if we can generate this sort of dynamism so that if you look at debt relative to GDP, that number doesn't grow too fast, then we are okay. But the difficulty is that that number has been growing over time.
So there is a possibility that at one time domestic investors and also foreign investors say, we've had enough of this and that's going to significantly affect growth because right now it's pulling in a lot of savings and that is not going to productive growth building elements of the economy. So it is a real fragility.
The U.S., because it still has the dominant currency in the world, the dollar, has a lot more leeway than any other economy would, but surely this is going to have an effect negative in terms of growth and potentially a somewhat more, you know, cataclysmic effect if we reach a point where all of a sudden there is no escaping from this debt.
The other kind of theme I see that, in terms of below-the-surface threats, if you look at the Gini coefficient, zero being total equality, I don't know if you call that socialism or communism, and one being one person owns all the assets. The French Revolution and let them eat cake, Marie Antoinette was around somewhere between 80 and 85. That's usually when it's revolution time.
Someone just did the same test on the US economy right now, and we're running at 83. We keep talking about income inequality and waiting for some sort of revolution. I would argue we're getting a series of mini revolutions, but is that another problem beneath the surface? And if so, when do you think it manifests itself and how?
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Chapter 5: What is the relationship between AI and job displacement?
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Professor Prasad, you mentioned the difference between what we're seeing in income inequality and wealth inequality, which I think is a topic that is not talked about enough. And that is income inequality is widening, but not as much as one would think. Wealth inequality is the real problem. That's where we're seeing a huge... divergence, at least in America.
Now, I think a lot of people would say, or a lot of people who are less concerned about the inequality problem would say, yeah, the top 1% has a lot more. We can look at the data there. We can look at the numbers and confirm that. But the overall standard of living in America is pretty much okay. or at least it's more okay than it has been in the past.
You know, people in the bottom 10, 15, 20% of America, they can still order things on DoorDash and they can, you know, some of them can afford rent in reasonably, at reasonable prices. I'm probably going to get pushback for saying that, but that is the argument that a lot of people would say, yes, there's inequality, but overall, the standard of living isn't that bad.
Look at how many people own a TV and an iPhone and et cetera, et cetera. I'm just wondering if you think that that is an acceptable argument, and if you think that that is something that a society could accept. the idea that you're never going to have real wealth.
You're never going to really have access to, say, buying a home and seeing the massive wealth increase that we saw in, say, the 60s, 70s, and 80s. But you'll still be fine. You'll be able to afford enough. to get by?
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Chapter 6: How is income inequality affecting the U.S. economy?
What is your view on that? AI policy as it pertains to the labor market? Should we be using some sort of controls in Washington or in any government around the world to perhaps alleviate the potential displacement that will come as a result of AI?
That's an extraordinarily difficult challenge because, again, we don't know exactly how the effects of AI will play out. You know, when digital currencies came out with blockchain technologies, there was a sense that blockchain would completely transform financial services. And it is playing a useful role, but it's not exactly transformed finance altogether. AI
It seems like a much more powerful technology. My fear, of course, is that we end up stifling innovation. And I think the example of Europe is important here because Europe has taken a much more aggressive approach towards regulation of AI and they're falling significantly behind.
in terms of the competitive race, which has now become a China versus US competition by and large with some other players that are marginal. I don't think it's good to stifle technology. At the same time, we certainly need to have some guardrails to ensure that this technology benefits us rather than causing more problems for society.
And I think we need to have some mechanisms in place to deal with the displacement that AI will cause. There are certainly going to be some industries and some firms that are winners, some that are losers. The question is, how do we ensure that we can support the more dynamic parts of the economy?
while ensuring that those who lose out during this transition don't fall through the cracks, because that is where the problem arises, where you have a large, disaffected population that feels that there are wonderful things happening around them that other people benefit from, and that they have no chance to get any of these economic opportunities.
So we may need to think about an economic structure, you know, not socialism or communism, but just a robust safety net that allows people to get back on their feet. And I fear that that safety net is fraying right now. In terms of regulation, again, it's extraordinarily challenging. When I think about these new innovations, we don't want to stand in their way.
But again, with something like AI that can potentially transform a variety of issues, you know, and intrude into our lives in many ways, good and also in many ugly ways. I think we need to at least have some regulation in place to make sure that it doesn't lead society to a very dark place.
I'd love to move to or start talking about potential solutions and propose a thesis and just get your response to it. If we're going to have an honest conversation around the long-term sustainability of our economy, I think we've got to address the deficit. If we're going to have an adult conversation about the deficit, All roads, for me at least, lead to entitlements and healthcare.
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Chapter 7: What solutions are proposed to address the national debt?
And much of the conversation really ends up being about laying off a bunch of federal workers, about cutting some discretionary spending, cutting Medicaid spending, all of which I think has some effect. But these are swamped by everything that has happened on the tax side where you've had
much more generous tax breaks for those who are already well off, and additional measures to even more complicate an already complicated tax system. So I think simplification is really one very important element on the tax side, at least, that could get us to a better place.
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So another, there's five legs of the stool, another leg we haven't discussed. Curious to get your thoughts on housing. And I realize that it's regional and there's a lot of dynamics at play here, but I think for the first time, In a while, there's now more than half the houses have mortgages above three or 4%.
There's some sort of hopefully tipping point that creates more liquidity in the market, but we're still not building enough. Curious to get your take on the housing market. And I always go to the sociology of it. And that is, I believe that it's created a great deal of poor risk-taking for young people. And that is, I think saving for a house
stops you from gambling or spending money at the pub or whatever. You know you gotta save a thousand bucks a month such that in three years you can have a down payment. And now that housing has become out of reach or kind of a pipe dream for people, young people are engaging, especially men, in much riskier behavior, which does nothing but fuel gambling apps.
Curious about your thoughts on housing and the second-order effect of the median age of homebuyers getting older and older every year.
The notion that this is the American dream, that you have to have your own house with a little garden and a backyard and a fence, that you can talk to your neighbors over, that still animates a lot of U.S. policymaking and economic decisions by young people and households today. More broadly on the supply side is really the constraint here.
You can shuffle around the existing houses, but with people growing older, many people having mortgages that they got at very low rates, the amount of housing that is available for sale that is turning over or that is being built is certainly quite limited. So certainly one needs to think about that issue. And ultimately, There has to be a supply response.
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Chapter 8: How can America regain its position as a leader in education?
You graduated from the University of Madras. I graduated from UCLA. I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that because you came from India, I came from UCLA. I had a 2.27 GPA undergrad. I'm going to speculate your GPA was much higher. A bit higher. And that you are what we call literally the best and brightest.
And we're like an NFL team that in 1986 got the top draft choices from everywhere in the world. Go 40 years forward and imagine a student with your qualifications, your pedigree, your work ethic. Imagine that person now in 2026, What do you think their view is of America? And what is America's view of them in terms of welcoming them into higher education and a faculty position?
So first of all, Professor Galloway, you're an inspiration to those around the world with 2.27 GPAs because of how well you ended up doing. So clearly a high GPA is not necessarily the best path to success. I worry a great deal, Scott. You know, I've benefited enormously from all that this country has had to offer me, and I've built a wonderful career and a family here.
I fear that America is no longer seen as the Lord Star, that the best and the brightest around the world look to as a place where they can come develop their skills and contribute to society, to the economy, and so forth. There is a sense that the U.S. has become much more hostile, not just to foreign labor, but even to foreign intellects, people with enormous drive.
who in many cases come here, build carriers and then go back to their home countries, thereby enriching the U.S., but also their home countries. And I fear that it makes America a much less rich place, not just economically, but also culturally and in terms of the perspectives we bring to bear. I mean, this is seen as the country where you can start with nothing. You know, I literally came to the
US with about $600 in my pocket. And this is where you can build something out of that. And that sense, I think, is quickly receding. You know, people are looking to other parts of the world. They're looking to universities elsewhere. And I think our universities are still by far those that set the standard for the rest of the world. But we cannot count on that. with a sense of complacency.
And I think that advantage is fast eroding. And it also affects how we see the rest of the world. You know, if we see the rest of the world through these eyes where, you know, we think about the other as the problem, you know, the other could be domestic economic and political elites or immigrants or China.
We stop thinking about what is really needed to fix our own problems rather than blaming others for our problems. So I think it is also important creating a more jaundiced view of Americans towards the rest of the world.
Every time we speak to someone like you, I'm optimistic and then also pessimistic because I realize that the problems that America needs to solve are so complicated, and I'm reminded of how little we are doing to actually solve them right now, at least from a policy perspective. But we've talked about the issues that we're facing. You've talked and written about the doom loop.
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