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When Donald Trump was running for his second term as president last year, he gave plenty of hints that he didn't care all that much about staying chummy with our European allies. For example, he once said, if NATO countries didn't pay their fair share, he would encourage Russia to, quote, do whatever the hell they want.
So maybe no one should be surprised a year later that he and members of his administration are spending their first few weeks in office offending their allies and shaking up the world order. But it is kind of surprising, at least the speed of it and the dismissive tone. For example, Vice President J.D.
Vance telling EU leadership, some of whom he referred to as commissars, that their countries were suppressing free speech. oder Donald Trump wiederholt russische Propaganda über die Krieg in der Ukraine.
Du hättest nie angefangen. Du hättest einen Deal gemacht. Ich hätte einen Deal für die Ukraine gemacht. Das würde sie fast alle Lande geben.
I'm Hannah Rosen. This is Radio Atlantic. Today, we talk about what this shift in the world order might mean. In the second half of the show, we'll be talking to staff writer Shane Harris, who covers national security, about how intelligence agencies are reacting to these changes. But first, we talk to Anne Applebaum, author of the book Autocracy, Inc. and host of the podcast Autocracy in America.
Anne begann ihre Karriere, Autokratie auf der ganzen Welt zu tracken. Und mit dem Wachstum von Trump begann sie, es in ihrem eigenen Land zu bemerken.
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