The MAGA alliance that helped elect Donald Trump is starting to show signs of fracturing. It recently came to a head after an important argument broke out over H-1B visas between Silicon Valley and the nativist wing. We talk with Atlantic staff writer Ali Breland, who writes about the internet, technology, and politics, about the public infighting, and staff writer Rogé Karma takes us beyond the politics by discussing what the research shows about the relationship between immigrant labor and the American worker. Extra listening: Rogé Karma on Good on Paper. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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There are already cracks starting to show in the Magall lines. And those cracks happen to show up in the issue that Trump has declared one of his top priorities, which is drastically reshaping U.S. immigration policy. Trump appointed to a senior position someone seen as being friendly to H-1B visas, the visas that allow people with specialized skills to work in the U.S.,
People in Silicon Valley love these visas. They depend on them. And maybe more importantly, the H-1B visa lovers include Elon Musk. But the America First wing of Trump supporters, sometimes known as the nativist right, they do not love these visas. America First to them means literally Americans first. No exceptions. I'm Hannah Rosen. This is Radio Atlantic.
On today's show, we'll talk about this MAGA infighting. In the second half of the show, we'll get into what's actually true about the relationship between immigration and the American worker. Because it turns out that even a lot of Democrats don't get that one right. But first, let's dive into the recent news and what it means.
To help me with that is Ali Breland, an Atlantic staff writer who writes about the internet, politics, and technology. Hey, Ali.
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