Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show
5 On It & Bill Wennington reflects on Derrick Rose's legacy (Hour 3)
26 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Number one. What did we learn about the Rams after they lost to the Seahawks but beat the Bears?
Okay, that was my are you all right with losing to the team who lost question because the Bears lost to the Rams who lost to the Seahawks. I think what we learned was Sean McVay is also of the send-it school.
We asked the question to Herm Edwards about the Broncos going, the fourth down call that Sean Payton says that he wants back when it comes to the Broncos and Patriots AFC title game, where unfortunately the weather may have taken the entertainment out of that game in the second half. That was a struggle, but it wasn't for your typical reasons.
It was two good defenses, young quarterbacks, a backup quarterback, and a lot of just dealing with what the world was handing you at that time. Not the case in Rams and Seahawks, where we did see a bit of going for it, a bit of send it. When there was the fourth and four, they could have kicked a field goal. They were inside the red zone, but they decided to go for it.
It ended up incomplete instead. That was an incredible game. At one point, there were four straight possessions where they had four straight touchdowns between the two of them. So I think what I learned about the Rams is even when it took the very last play because they were able to move down the field in very little time, don't ever count that team out until it is absolutely done.
And I know it's cliche, but...
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Chapter 2: What insights do we gain about the Rams' recent performance?
Tom Brady had the Seahawks already advancing to the Super Bowl. It's like, not so fast, Tom Brady. That Rams offense can do a thing or two. And they took it even down to the very last second of the game before you thought this was done. And remember, they had to challenge the play.
Pukunukua, they couldn't figure out if his knee was actually inbounds or not on the last play because he was trying to get to the right sideline.
Yeah, they had no timeouts. They needed a big game to set up a possibility for a Hail Mary or a hook and ladder or whatever you run at the end of games these days.
Oh, do you? But... Is that even a play?
Maybe. Anything can be a play if you can conceptualize it and then draw it up.
Ben.
In the dirt.
Mike McDaniel. Or on a board. Sean McVay.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: How did the weather impact the AFC Championship game?
Yeah, no, it's true. The NFC West was the best division in football this year. And the only teams that have beaten NFC West teams at last check were other NFC West teams. That's correct, right? There were three teams in and... The Seahawks beat both the other NFC West teams, the Niners, and then now the Rams.
Oh, it's you all again. Yes, they did. Handily against the 49ers, but then a challenge against the Rams.
Yeah, and this is about what I expect. The ballers came to ball. Both quarterbacks throwing over 300 yards. You had both leading receivers looking like number one receivers in Puka Nakua and, of course, Jackson Smith and... And Jigba. And Jigba.
JSN. JSN. JSN and Jigba.
JSN sounds like a television network that I'm just... I did not pay the extra tier to get. You're listening to JSN.
It does end in N, just like a lot of networks do. The Jackson Smith and Jigba network? You ever think about that?
I hadn't until... You said JSN.
Also, how is he getting so open on some of those plays?
He was wide open on some of those catches.
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Chapter 4: What can we learn from Derrick Rose's jersey retirement ceremony?
Whose job is it to pick up the entire Denver Broncos front seven? I felt like that was happening a lot in this game before the shift and the tide turned.
You mean before the snow started falling?
And then all hell broke loose.
I'll say this. With those five sacks you talk about for 21 yards, the net passing was 65 yards. 65 yards net passing for Drake Maye.
Yeah, that was a survive in advance.
Yeah, well, that's what it is at this point of the season. And we had a texture that was like, this game was a chess match, blah, blah, blah. I was like, yeah, of course it was. It's a playoff game in the NFL. That doesn't mean it was aesthetically pleasing because it wasn't.
No, the Rams and Seahawks was aesthetically pleasing. Also, I thought about this a lot during yesterday's game. How would you like to be the fan sitting at the top of that pointed open end zone seating get up at Lumen Field? Get up is the right word here. The hell? Who chooses that seat? You're like, I will take the top of this shady looking seating structure.
Get in where you fit in is what I say.
Why don't they just make it more square? Like, I appreciate architecture, but put more fans in the seats. What is that? Did you notice that too, Ray? You're looking at me like you did.
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Chapter 5: What were Bill Wennington's reflections on Derrick Rose's legacy?
And if you sat at the top, then you know that nobody's getting in the way of your elbows. And everybody's right on this kick field goals thing. I understand, man. I understand that there are times where you want to go for it on fourth down. I love it. But I do think there are some field goals that guys would have rather had back in these cases.
Check the forecast and act accordingly.
Yeah, and also just it's the first half, you know? Like, you can make those other decisions later. It's when you have to play from behind that makes it hard.
I'll be out here telling you to go up two scores always. Number three. This is Five On It on 670 The Score with Layla Rahimi and Marshall Harris. Here's question number three. The Packers are reportedly hiring former Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon to be their defensive coordinator.
What do you think happens to Bears defensive pass game coordinator and defensive backs coach Al Harris, who also interviewed for that job? Al Harris, he's a former Packer, correct? That's why we're talking about this in an opening sense. Did Mike McCarthy ever coach him? I'm just curious. I think he did. Does Mike McCarthy have a new head coaching job?
I think Al Harris may very well be the defensive coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Well, and also, how about the news out of Washington? There was a report that it was like, Al Harris is being interviewed. Dan Quinn wants turnovers. Raw! And I'm like, oh, man, he's going to go. And I kind of accepted it. I knew that Al Harris was going to get a lot of interviews. The turnaround that he had of this Bears secondary was incredible.
What he did with an injured secondary deserves applause. all of the credit in the world, making Kevin Byard an All-Pro again. And Al would probably say, oh, Kevin Byard did that himself. And yes, Kevin Byard deserves credit. Yes, all those things. But you still got to go out there and do it and be put in positions to succeed, which is something that I think Al Harris helped do.
There's a high, high praise for Al Harris right now among league circles. And if he doesn't go to Pittsburgh, like you mentioned, maybe he just drives the price up on Washington. Because if there's one guy who probably also appreciates what he did with that secondary, it's defensive coach Dan Quinn. I don't think we're out of the woods with Al Harris and Jobs yet.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of the Bears potentially moving to a dome stadium?
Probably not, I guess, because they wouldn't have brought him in to interview or they wanted secret info.
Chapter 7: How does the NFL's trend towards domed stadiums affect team strategy?
Yeah, never turn down the opportunity to learn more about your opponent. And I think interviewing him, you can learn more about your opponent.
Was three games not enough, Matt LaFleur?
Number four. Phillip Rivers took himself out of consideration for the Bills head coach job. What's next for Mr. Rivers?
You know what? The thing that I found the most compelling about the Philip Rivers career arc this year was not even necessarily the comeback to the NFL, because that was prolific. Let's just be honest about that. The whole thing was very inspiring.
But it was how collectively as a society, we all seem to understand that the true value of Philip Rivers getting a job and extending his service time in the NFL was that he gets five more years of health insurance for him and his very large family. When the salary doesn't matter as much as the health insurance does. That is an indication of it all, is it not?
I mean, I think the salary matters. Getting paid as an NFL head coach, you know my thing. Hire me so you can fire me and I'll take the... That's college.
But the NFL, same principles apply. It is. But in this case, everybody seemed to know that the five years extra of health insurance that Phillip Rivers got was worth him taking it for his familial team and coming back and getting a job in the league.
Well, Diana Rossini, who had this news, and then Mike Garofalo, who said, sounds like he enjoyed the process with Buffalo, but now isn't the right time for him or his family.
My family.
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Chapter 8: What challenges do teams face when considering new stadium developments?
Lots of family. The family roster is deep.
I think the bigger question is here, does he get on to somebody's staff as an assistant or something like that? There are these favorite quarterback interviews that seem to happen. Your guy doesn't necessarily have the job experience, but it's good to interview into the process.
You can take the Josh McCown path.
I was thinking of Josh McCown when we discussed this. McCown! But perhaps we do see Phillip Rivers as an assistant of some sort.
Number five. It's 5 out of 9, 670 score with Layla Rahimi and Marshall Harrison. Here's our final question. And it's a big one. It's a big one. It's an important one. Does anyone want to coach the Cleveland Browns? I mean, I would like to coach the Cleveland Browns for reasons I just shared with you. Hire me to fire me.
I would like to get hired and then fired by your finest executive.
But it is a little bit concerning that Grant Udansky... the offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars, who of course just had a great season, probably Trevor Lawrence's best offensive season, has pulled his name from consideration for the head coaching job of the Browns, although he's still pursuing the Bills job.
I mean, clearly we have, if we're ranking it, the Browns' job is the worst job in the NFL right now. It's the worst head coaching job in the NFL right now.
Yes.
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