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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

5 On It & Clay Harbor has ideas for the Bears (Hour 3)

29 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the five topics on the minds of the hosts today?

3.777 - 12.249 Nailah Rahimi

It's time for five on. Nailah Rahimi and Marshall Harris with Mark Grote. Bringing you five topics on their mind today. On Chicago Sports Radio 670 The Score.

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I got five more minutes.

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13.801 - 14.562 Nailah Rahimi

Number one.

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14.642 - 42.12 Marshall Harris

This is a special edition of Five On It with Mark Grody, Marshall Harris, and joining us in the house, co-host of the big pro football show on CHSN, Clay Harbor. Here's question number one. This week, CBS Sports published its list of top 50 2026 free agents and potential landing spots for them. Number 40 on the list, veteran pass rusher, a name you're all familiar with, Khalil Mack.

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42.185 - 53.045 Marshall Harris

At the top of CBS's list of potential suitors for Mac, the Bears. How would you feel about the idea of a Bears and Khalil Mac reunion?

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First of all, I think that we discussed a potential Khalil Mac reunion last year. Or was it two years ago? I think it was our guy. Chris Semmel, wasn't it? It was, yeah. The reuniting with the Bears that came up, but he ended up with the Chargers. I don't like it. I don't need it. Khalil Mack is 34, played in 12 games for the Chargers last year, had five and a half sacks.

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I guess the problem with it is, for me, a couple of things. The Bears have guys that they could probably get to five and a half sacks on the season. So I don't know. That just multiplies the amount of guys that you will have struggling with to get to double-digit sacks, I feel like. I love Khalil Mack. I covered Khalil Mack in 2018. It was a blast of a year.

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And I don't know if this is in the spirit of the question or not. Khalil Mack didn't seem to really like... the Chicago-ness of it all, and I mean being in that fishbowl, dealing with the media. He was never mean to us in any way, shape, or form, but he did like to elude us. He did not like to talk.

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He always had this look like, my God, why do 30 people want to gather around my locker and talk to me right now?

Chapter 2: How could Khalil Mack potentially reunite with the Bears?

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I don't think Khalil Mack at this point in his life is built for Chicago. So no thanks on Khalil Mack. I'm with my fellow Missouri Valley Conference brother, Mark Brody, from Illinois State. I'm Missouri State. MVC, baby. Love you, man. But I'm going to pass on Cleo Mack. I think he had an okay year. He's still got a little bit of gas left in the tank.

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I mean, he's getting close to running on E. If you ever get in a car with Marshall, he's always close to running on E. Classic. But... Two guys I do like. I know there's been a lot of him thrown around here. Trey Hendrickson, obviously the history with Dennis Allen. You go back two years, leading the league in sacks, fourth in pressures, fourth in hits.

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You go back to last year, only played in seven games, but a top five pass rush win rate when he did play in those games. If the medicals, check out. Bring me him. And then the other guy, I just watched tape on him yesterday. Adafi Owe. I was looking up edge rushers. After arriving in Los Angeles, this guy can move. He can play against the run. He can pressure the quarterback.

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I really like Adafe Owe. And he's big. He's one of those guys that Dennis Allen likes, Marshall Harris.

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206.113 - 228.572 Clay Harbor

Listen, man. My answer to your question is a question. At what price? At what cost? This man made $18 million last year. And I just feel like if you've seen the Bears cap table, if you've been to spot rack, you're like, how much are they going to pay a guy who is definitely on the downside of his career? This is an ascending team.

228.552 - 253.62 Clay Harbor

Unfortunately, even though he's only a year removed from a Pro Bowl trip, he is a descending player. He will be 35 next year. And in the NFL, it's impressive that he's around this long. This guy is probably a future Hall of Famer. But guess what? The Bears don't need him. They need to find other options. I don't think this is the right situation for him to be in. Yes, do they need pass rush?

254.161 - 264.162 Clay Harbor

Absolutely. They need young pass rush that will get better and grow alongside Caleb Williams is my answer to this. If he was 29, okay, you got me.

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But he's not. Unfortunately, the problem with the field and good creative thinking on Clay's part, like you look at the list of some of the guys that would be available, there's a Bosa available. There's always a Bosa available. There's Joey of the Bosas. Jalen Phillips. Jalen Phillips. Yeah. Watched his tape. Yeah. I mean, he was okay. Owey stuck out to me. Okay.

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When I looked at both those guys, I wanted to see which one I'd like more. Right. Okay, that is interesting because I do like Phillips. Hasan Reddick, 13 games, two and a half sacks last year for Tampa Bay. Yeah, I just don't get crazy excited about these guys, and I think we're all a no on Mack.

Chapter 3: Should the Cubs trade for Tarek Skubal this offseason?

892.608 - 914.136 Marshall Harris

Here's our final question. This week, NBC announced that Fever star Caitlin Clark is joining the network's pregame coverage for its debut of Sunday Night Basketball this weekend. How many Caitlin Clark appearances will we see before we get another installment of NBC's Michael Jordan feature, MJ, Insights to Excellence?

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Probably many. And what a sham the whole thing has turned out to be with Michael Jordan. As interesting as some of the tidbits that have come out of the Mike Tirico interview, it's just too bad that we have to go to this end of the earth. to get Michael Jordan to talk about stuff or to be in somebody's presence or just to be with the populace. It's impossible. What did they pay him? $20 million?

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$80 million to do the interview? It was something ridiculous. For Jordan, I'm talking about, right? It was crazy, the number. They had to give him a big number. That's all it makes me think, because as I was talking about Eddie Murphy, always just wanting to know more, hear more, see an accessible guy, wanted to see him interviewed. I'm the same way with Jordan, and we just don't get it.

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He is just unattainable.

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966.614 - 973.725 Marshall Harris

Various reports say Michael Jordan was paid between $20 million and $80 million for being a special contributor.

973.746 - 976.29 Clay Harbor

I think that's been debunked, though, the high end of that.

976.35 - 976.931 Marshall Harris

Come on.

976.951 - 987.969 Clay Harbor

They debunked the $40 million annually. He's probably paid around what Barclays paid, which is $21 million a year. For an hour? I think it was like three hours is what they said it was.

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What's $20 million to Michael Jordan who's worth billions? Something. It's worth something apparently. It's worth him taking time out to answer some questions. He can get farther away from the world the more money he makes. His whole goal is to never be seen but be seen at the same time. I know, but you're just pulling in so much money. It's irrelevant. That money to him is irrelevant.

Chapter 4: What were the most disappointing aspects of the Bulls' recent loss?

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Third highest paid off-ball linebacker in the National Football League. Off-ball. Right? He's 37th in overall grade, 55th in coverage grade, 29th in missed tackle percentage, 45th in catch percentage allowed. Everything you look at when I watch his tape, I think he's fine. But is he that much better than a guy you can get for half the price? No. So my...

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thought process here is if you cut him you can sign a guy that can do his job for less you're under you're over the cap already you need some other positions maybe a little bit more you still got tj edwards hopefully coming back healthy so tremaine edmonds marshall grody getting cut

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1561.087 - 1570.317 Clay Harbor

You know what, I don't have a problem with it, mainly because I think we saw in some of his absence this season, other guys could be affected.

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DeMarco Jackson is actually legit. Watching his film, the guy can play.

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1574.701 - 1593.585 Clay Harbor

In Dennis Allen's defense, he can maneuver some things, and it comes down to two things. That position just isn't as important as other positions that the Bears need to address. And if you have that much money tied to it and you can get out from under it, I don't know if it should be a straight cut, a negotiation for a restructure of some kind.

1593.905 - 1605.808 Clay Harbor

I don't know, but it's hard for me to see someone else coming in here at another position not being a boom to this Bears defense. And if Edmonds has to go away to make that happen, I feel like we can live with that.

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I agree with that. They showed me, even Amen Ogbogbamiga, I know he wasn't always active, but he had a couple of big games. He had a couple of big games. He really did. So I do have some trust in Dennis Allen and just the nature of the position not being considered. It's not a premium position.

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And DeMarco Jackson, we didn't even mention, and maybe people have just given up on Reuben Hippolyte, and maybe that's even fair. It's one year. It's one year. Noah Sewell still? Noah Sewell is an obviously hurt, but he'll be back. But that's a good example of a guy who made a jump, too.

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He was not great, but I felt like he had been left for dead until this staff came around and we finally started to see something from Noah Sewell. So, yeah, I am down with the cut of Tremaine Edmonds, as likable as he is. He's a good player, but you can do what's expendable. Eberflus guy. This is the one that gets a little bit of hate right here, okay?

Chapter 5: How did LeBron influence the Lakers' draft decision for Bronny James?

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People are saying Max Crosby, even Trey, even Adafi Owe. Maybe the problem solved here is you have to draft a young guy, a cost-controlled guy, because Dio Dangbo, even though his two sacks or one sack and two TFLs all last year in eight games – didn't really pan out for you. Grady Jarrett, you know, you can't really do much with that contract. He's still there. Hopefully he gets healthier.

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Shamar Turner, young draft pick, you hope he pans out. Maybe you just try to develop these guys. You hope these guys get better. What I saw is I think you have to add to that defensive line if you want to take another step. Those guys aren't talented enough. Dio, Couldn't cut it for me. Shamar Turner can get better. He's young. Grady Jarrett just seemed a little off near the end of the season.

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I thought he looked good in camp. Maybe he can come back, but he is getting up there. So I think it's worth it, and that's why I prefaced it with, you know, cut Tremaine Edmonds. You need to get that cash flowing somewhere. And then trading DJ.

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2196.43 - 2225.188 Clay Harbor

obviously bring in another receiver but he's the highest paid player on the team get that off your books and you can bring in a guy like Trey Hendrickson where I think that is a bigger need position when you look at the teams in the conference championship game all of them are top 10 in pressure rate you're really okay with clearing the money via those first two players in DJ Moore and Tremaine Edmonds just to be able to invest more in your defensive line and to have Montez Sweat getting paid on one side and Trey Hendrickson on the other

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I think for Tremaine Edmonds, I think if you can get rid of Tremaine Edmonds, you can bring in another linebacker that can do what he does for a third of the price probably, half the price. Some average linebacker, which I think Tremaine is, solid NFL player. And then you can invest that money, restructure something else, and then bring in an edge rusher, Adafe Olwe, Trey Hendrickson.

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I think you really do need an edge rusher. If you're denting the pocket for the middle and you can find, if Grady Jarrett, you think he's going to come back and be your guy to get pressure, Jervon Dexter, I don't know if I'm seeing it, then that's cool too. But with DJ, I think there's just... So much money there for a guy that might not be a top three option for your team.

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You can invest in a left tackle even. You've got a left tackle and edge rusher. To me, those are the two most important positions on your team right now. We've only got a couple minutes left with you. You did, as you said in your words, you had a cup of espresso. Espresso shot. With the New England Patriots, and one of your stops along the way in your NFL journey.

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So I have to ask you about Bill Belichick and not becoming a first ballot Hall of Famer. I think it's unfortunate because only one coach can get elected to the Hall of Fame per year. So now you're pushing the line back even further. And obviously these guys had a bone to pick with Bill Belichick. Nobody thinks that this guy, Don Shula is the only coach in NFL history that has more wins than him.

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Eight Super Bowl wins, six as a head coach. I mean, just being in the room with Bill, the way he handled things, how professional he was, how he handled each player the same. And for me to be complimenting this guy, this guy cut me off. I played six games there. I got cut from Bill. And I still have so much respect for him as a coach, his system, how he handled everything.

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