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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

5 On It & Herb Howard talks Bears (Hour 3)

13 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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This hour is brought to you by Jewel Osco. I got five. It's time for Five On It. Rahimi Harrison-Roney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104.3 The Score.

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Chapter 2: What topics are on the minds of the hosts today?

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I got five on it.

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Number one.

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16.03 - 41.158 Leila Rahimi

It's five on it on 104.3 The Score with Laila Rahimi, Marshall Harris, and we have a special guest in the house, Herb Howard from The Bigs Media. You know him, the Bears reporter. You follow his content at HerbHoward411 on X. Here's question number one. CBS Sports released its list of the NFL's top regression candidates, and the Bears are right at the top of it. The reason?

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41.138 - 58.371 Leila Rahimi

the Bears don't have the cap space to maintain continuity in the defensive backfield. So here's the question. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the worry meter, trademark, where do you rate your level of concern about the Bears taking the North in 2025 only to give it back in 2026?

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Seven, stay scared. And that's not just because it's the Bears and that's not just because it's the NFC North. It's because of the talent in the entire division. But do I think that that means that they will regress that much? No, because I feel like the quarterback is still going to progress. And I think also... you're going to be healthier most likely on the defense.

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I don't know that you put together as unhealthy of a season physically as the defense had this past year when you consider that even the guy who had the most tackles on the team was also an injured reserve for four weeks. So I don't even need to get into the secondary issue, do I? Do you think Jalen Johnson's going to have another year where part of his groin rips off of his body? I don't.

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I feel like I'm tempting fate by saying all this. But I think somebody tempted fate before me. So I'm going to blame that person instead. So because of that, I know that they've got a lot of signings that they have to have. But I also know that they were playing without a lot of the people they expected.

Chapter 3: How do the Bears rank among NFL regression candidates?

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So I have a feeling that they won't be as regressing as people think. Now, the threat of it is more so the fact that the Packers will get healthy. That means Micah Parsons. That means that I think Minnesota takes another step forward. How much is up to JJ McCarthy? The distance of that step. Okay. Justin Jefferson exists.

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So when you put that all together and not to mention the lions, do you think the lions missed the playoffs two years in a row after Ben Johnson leaves? What's the likely by itself? What's the likelihood of that? So when you consider all those things, I think there's a reason to be concerned because it's the NFL, but I don't think that it's, it's going to be as bad based on that factor.

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Lions don't have to worry about that first place schedule next year. I can tell you that. Bears do.

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Chapter 4: What is the worry level for the Bears' performance in 2026?

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And for that, I'm putting the worry meter at an 8.5. Stay scared. Stay all the way realistic. How about that? I believe Caleb Williams is still on an upward trajectory. I believe that Ben Johnson's offense will be even better. I'll be shocked if they're not a top three offense in 2026. Problem is what that defense do. And I don't know what the defense is going to do.

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You don't know what the defense is going to do because while you want to say, hey, we know they take away the football. I know the guys on this team currently take away the football. What I don't know is who's going to be healthy next season. What is Dio Odingo going to do? What are some of these other players? What are they going to draft? What are they going to bring in?

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I have a lot of questions about this defense. I believe in Dennis Allen, but I believe Dennis Allen is only as good as the chess pieces that he is allotted.

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212.082 - 233.028 Marshall Harris

Yeah, I'm right there with you, Layla. It's a seven for me on the worry meter because just the respect of the National Football League, respect for the division. There are a lot of good teams in there. Listen, the Bears won the North this year with a 2-4 division record. So let's start there. Right. The Detroit Lions already swept them this year. And so, you know, can they win it again? Sure.

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233.229 - 245.363 Marshall Harris

Right. I'm not saying they don't have the ability to. I'm right there with you on who Coach Johnson is or who Caleb is continuing to develop into. I think they got good pieces all around offensively and defensively. I think also the defense won't take that.

245.343 - 275.299 Marshall Harris

regression that we're talking about because of the health right Kyler Gordon I expect him to play more than two games next year whatever it was he played this year like so I think those things will help them but they do still have questions to figure out in terms of how they're going to consistently affect the passer what's going to happen that linebacker in terms of contracts and new pieces or whatever they get there are some things to figure out but I still feel really really good about this team but just out of respect for the National Football League and the division my worry about them not repeating as North champions is about a seven

277.608 - 297.692 Leila Rahimi

In a recent piece on the NFL's top trade targets, Bleacher Report floated the idea of a Bears receiver going to the Chargers. He'd be an ideal fit because they're looking for a replacement for 34-year-old receiver Keenan Allen. If the Bears were interested in sending more to L.A., what should they get in return?

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So the receiver in question was DJ Moore, was it not?

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DJ Moore.

Chapter 5: What moves do the Bears need to make during the offseason?

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A lot of different things they can do, even with his own contract. Now there's some conversation about, you know, Khalil Mack or things like that. If that's going to come back in the Chargers thing.

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443.59 - 466.898 Marshall Harris

maybe but i don't know that you get better by doing that right and so for me i just think that dj moore should be a member of the of the 2026 chicago bears i talked to him out in san francisco this past week at superbowl and he told me he'll he will be back in chicago for 2026 now i don't know if that's a conversation that him and ryan poles had about restructuring contracts or whatever it may be but he was like we'll be back in 2026 i certainly hope so

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Well, and just to add to that, I think he has the most value with the Bears just based on that and the fact that they did want to pay him that money. Barnwell said a middle round pick would be a realistic return, but the real benefit might be freeing up the $24.5 million in 2026 cash. I just can't see...

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There's too many contracts that have years remaining where you can do too much in that department, Herb, rather than to just trade away DJ Moore and get not enough value for him.

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And it's a big assumption on the projections of Luther Burden, of Roma Dunze, of Colston Levin. I know we all feel great about them. I do as well. But he's probably your most proven commodity at the wide receiver position. I don't know that we get him out of here to save a few bucks.

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Number three. It's five on it on 104.3 The Score with Layla Rahimi, Marshall Harris, and Herb Howard of the Biggs Media. Here's question number three. What is the biggest weakness of the Cubs right now?

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I think the biggest weakness of the Cubs right now is we still don't know how they're going to entirely replace Kyle Tucker's bat. Kyle Tucker was so important to not just the league and the Dodgers, but it has become a tipping point as to whether or not we might have a season next year.

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So when you consider that importance and the value that the rest of the league places on him and what he brought to this team, and we're still trying to figure out who's going to be in right field on a regular basis, who's going to be the DH on a regular basis, if there even is a regular basis, then I think that gives you an indication that the offensive problems, at least for me, are far from solved and far from guaranteed.

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So for me, I had to really think about this one because there's a lot of different things that I am concerned about, right? And so I read the question and I read it again. I was like, what's their actual biggest weakness right now? I think the weaknesses, they play in the same freaking league as Shohei Otani and the Dodgers.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of DJ Moore's potential trade?

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You want Victor? No, I would. It's Castle.

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1029.37 - 1034.185 Marshall Harris

Oh, Castle. Yeah, he's shorter. Remember when the superstars of the NBA used to do the dunk contest?

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That was too long ago.

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1035.047 - 1055.073 Marshall Harris

It's too long ago. Mack McClung, he came through and he electrified everybody with his dunks. He wasn't even in the NBA. And now that opens the door for Damian Lillard, who also is not currently in the NBA, but playing in the NBA. So Matt McClung is the gateway drug? Yeah, so now it's just like pulling people out of the street. I heard you got a 50-inch vertical, sir, at Starbucks. I do.

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Would you like to? Yes, I would. Thank you.

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Now, I will say this. At least Matt McClung has played an NBA game this season. We just saw one recently. He played, who was that against? Milwaukee. Milwaukee, yeah.

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They were gearing up for the dunk contest, and he's like, oh, no.

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No dunks in that game, though, for Matt McClung. Dude, poor Mac McClung. He was like, I'm going to play downhill. You're playing downhill in the NBA. When you step into the paint, that ball might get turned over.

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It's so watered down now. And I also think we've seen all the dunks, too.

Chapter 7: What is the biggest weakness of the Cubs right now?

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The tackles didn't lie. He led the team in the regular season tackles.

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And then he goes down and then, yep.

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He had four interceptions.

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1629.926 - 1644.733 Marshall Harris

And, of course, a fumble recovery. He's a huge problem in the red zone. It's hard to navigate his height, his length, his athleticism. That's a tough problem for quarterbacks as the field gets tighter down and around the red zone. But you also look at what happened when he went out. And then DeMarco Jackson comes in. He's got 15 tackles and 14 tackles.

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And it's like, well, we can just plug and play now. So it's okay. So we can get rid of him. It's like, all right, be careful. Be careful.

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Yeah, I like the DeMarco Jackson piece as a backup, as a quality if your guy gets hurt. Because people get hurt in the NFL. It happens. But what happens with DeMarco Jackson if you go the route of he's going to be the guy? And I don't think he would even be the guy necessarily if they got rid of Tremaine Edmonds. But if he gets hurt, now you're on that next level linebacker.

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And that's when linebacker becomes more than just something you don't think about to a problem.

1676.849 - 1695.136 Marshall Harris

I know they still have high hopes about Reuben Hippolyte and Noah Sewell. He's got his Achilles. He's going to be coming back whenever he can. I think they feel good about their young linebackers, but it's also about being able to have proven production out on the field right now. Who keeps offensive coordinators up at night? Who do you have to scheme for?

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And I don't know that you get rid of Tremaine, then you have that without going outside of the team to then replace it.

Chapter 8: Should Damian Lillard participate in the All-Star Weekend?

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Got it to his running back, Henderson, who takes it by midfield. Down the near sideline, 40. Down the near sideline, 35. Tap it at the 30. The clock is ticking. Two, one, and that's it. And the Seattle Seahawks have won Super Bowl XVI in pretty dominating fashion. 29-13, they win their second Vince Lombardi trophy. That is Kevin Harlan on Westwood One. Impossible to concentrate with this song.

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This is Remy Harris and Brody on 104.3 The Score. Herb Howard from the Biggs Media is here joining us in studio. And I'm dying laughing at all these texts on the text line. Maybe John Fox can hire Matt Iberflues as the junior assistant head coach. That's good. The 2010s called. They want their coach back. This is the equivalent of the White Sox bringing in Tony La Russa.

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Like, everybody's going off. I mean, he's not in charge in charge. He's just an assistant. He's just a senior assistant. He's not in charge in charge. He's definitely a senior assistant, though. Does this mean the Bears get compensatory picks for John Fox? I mean, the jokes, they just write themselves with this news. In the meantime, Herb did talk about going to the Super Bowl.

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You were there as part of the media, the contingent, the content machine. What were your experiences like? What was some of the gossip you got? I know we mentioned your conversation with Brian Urlacher. What was it like out there?

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2098.893 - 2121.683 Marshall Harris

I told this to Lawrence and Speaks last week, but I... The thing that describes Radio Row the best to me was I walked in the door and one day I walk in the door and the first person I see is Flavor Flav. And then the very next person I see is Barry Sanders. And it's like you got this loud, obnoxious dude and then you got the most mild-mannered, temperamental dude ever.

2121.723 - 2140.788 Marshall Harris

And it's like, that's what Radio Row is. You run into all-time great athletes and then you run into... like just superstars, socialites, entertainers or whatever. And it's just like, what is this place? And how is it all happening in the same space? Like why is Barry Sanders and Flavor Flav in the same room right behind each other? What is this?

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And I think that kind of encompassed what it was all about. But there was a lot of good work to get done. You kind of just kind of float around and you bump into people. And one thing turned into another. I was talking to Cal Long when I had the thing with Brian Black. I was talking to Cal Long yesterday. And then my back is to where Brian Urlacher is coming from.

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And I see Cal Long get distracted by somebody. And then he got kind of like shoulder bumps. And I look over and it's Brian Urlacher. And they say something. I'm like, well, Brian Urlacher is here. Bring him into the conversation and shout out to Cal Long because he just. Yeah.

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he immediately like turned into his own kind of reporter journalist and he's like he brings him in he's holding the mic for him like how long you the man bro so i saw cal on the next day the next morning i walk in there and i'm like yeah what up he's like her be like the video going crazy on twitter i was like yeah i saw that i saw you reposted it he's like man we gotta do some more stuff i was like cool cool cool so uh just those types of experiences is kind of what it was like for

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