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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

5 On It & Kevin Fishbain talks Bears (Hour 3)

17 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What five topics are on the hosts' minds today?

2.056 - 9.196 Leila Rahimi

It's time for Five On It. Rahimi Harrison-Roney. Bring you five topics on their minds today. On 104.3 The Score.

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10.76 - 11.121

I got five on it.

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11.472 - 12.213 Leila Rahimi

Number one.

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12.253 - 36.484 Mark Grote

All right, we got one for all the Maxinistas out there. On Monday, ESPN proposed a blockbuster trade between the Bears and the Raiders. In this scenario, Chicago would send receiver DJ Moore and a 2026 first round pick to Las Vegas for pass rusher Max Crosby and a 2027 fifth round pick. Would you be on board with this move?

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36.464 - 53.405 Leila Rahimi

Okay, so number one, I would like to say thanks to everybody who watched Chicago Sports Tonight on Sunday. It was Chris Bleck, who's now our co-worker, and it's still weird for us to say. We all freak out on the Odyssey Sports Minutes because we're like, wait a second, Chris Bleck doesn't work with us. Yes, he does.

54.146 - 58.271 Mark Grote

He's at Westwood Y. He was at another place for a long time.

Chapter 2: What blockbuster trade proposal involves the Bears and Raiders?

58.351 - 59.052 Mark Grote

Shout out to Chris Bleck.

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59.072 - 76.347 Leila Rahimi

Yeah, and everybody's always like, no, I don't listen to you guys. 1,000. We got the numbers. We know. And we stole Chris Black and Adam Abdallah. So go us. And there was a fight about the Max Crosby discussion. And the question was, would it take more than two first round picks?

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76.367 - 93.184 Leila Rahimi

And then people got passionate in the comments, as I saw, because I like to read because sometimes there's something you miss, you know, and people talk about stuff. And that's how you try to fill in the gaps. People have questions that I don't always have. So I was they were like, Lila was saying three draft picks. No, I wasn't. Not necessarily.

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93.772 - 116.32 Leila Rahimi

It's something along the lines of what Bill Barnwell discussed. There are position players of value to the Raiders. DJ Moore could be one of them. Other Bears, you know, when they have a rich, vast wealth at certain positions, like, I don't know, tight end. I'm just saying there are other positions where the Bears have a plethora of people heard.

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116.3 - 136 Leila Rahimi

And so it might not be just draft picks, might not be just first rounders, might be a combination of assets. That's what I was kind of getting at here. I don't think it's a one for one. This was the Micah Parsons deal. So therefore it would be Max Crosby. So I just want to get that out there. Thanks to everybody who is so passionate about it.

136.02 - 157.377 Leila Rahimi

But unless I say three draft picks, that's not necessarily what I mean. It sounds like it could work. But at the end of the day, DJ Moore is also making $28.5 million. Now, DJ Moore has years on his contract, and we like to say in the biz, the more years you have, the more you can restructure.

157.88 - 178.369 Leila Rahimi

But I just don't know if the Raiders want that salary in addition to something else for a return for Crosby. Would it solve a lot of people's problems? Yes. I think Bill Barnwell is saying it for a reason, though. And that's why I give it some credence, because this is not the first time he's brought this up. So who is he talking to?

178.568 - 204.096 Mark Grote

You know I love DJ Moore personally and professionally and all that kind of stuff. What? That's right, that's right. But to answer the question, yes, I would be on board with this move for sure. Because it just... When you go back and you compare some of those trades, and I know you referenced them, I'll just go back to even the Khalil Mack trade.

204.116 - 217.722 Mark Grote

Would you say Khalil Mack at that point and Max Crosby at this point? Pretty comparable, right? In terms of being at the peak of their powers and the disruption they could cause. Would you say that's pretty good comp in terms of being at the peak of their powers?

Chapter 3: Who could be salary cap casualties for the Bears?

248.215 - 253.527 Mark Grote

They're done with me, apparently. No, no, no, no, no. The beaut was done. He had it.

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253.547 - 261.245 Leila Rahimi

This is a different show. This is Rahimi and Grody featuring Chris Rangy saying the words I couldn't say in our last segment. Miss a little, miss a lot. Finish your thought.

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261.285 - 262.187 Mark Grote

You're dead, Jack.

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262.167 - 262.888 Leila Rahimi

Finish your thought.

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262.928 - 282.499 Mark Grote

Micah Parsons, two first-round picks. Kenny Clark, four years, $188 million. This is a good deal. I don't know why anybody would say no to this deal. It's a good deal. We're all giving the disclaimer. We love DJ Moore, and they may be bereft of a top receiver without DJ Moore unless Luther Burden takes that next step and Roma Dunzey gets better.

282.6 - 286.766 Mark Grote

So I'm not just frivolously letting DJ Moore go, but yes, hell yes, I would do that trade.

286.786 - 288.529 Leila Rahimi

DJ Moore is still your WR1.

288.509 - 308.61 Mark Grote

He really is. Yeah. He really is. And I know there was a quiet period last year where he wasn't even getting targeted. And we had a famous interaction, DJ and I did. What? Yeah, there was a lot of what going on in that conversation. But he still made the biggest catches of the year. You would not have gotten as far as you got without DJ Moore last year. Period.

310.868 - 311.649 Leila Rahimi

Number two.

Chapter 4: What insights did Kevin Fishbane provide about Bears' salary cap issues?

348.922 - 360.886 Leila Rahimi

Okay, this is a curious list. Is it not? Like, number one, Dak Prescott at number three? Yeah. Yeah, Stafford is at number one. I actually agree with that. I'm sorry.

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360.966 - 362.229 Mark Grote

Prescott stood out to me, too.

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362.95 - 382.357 Leila Rahimi

And I get that. There was a discussion to be made at an earlier point in the season that he could have been the MVP. But to have Drake May then at number four, is that just because of his sparkling completion percentage in the regular season he had? And now couldn't you flip-flop Drake May and Sam Darnold?

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382.417 - 400.729 Leila Rahimi

At least put Darnold at number five because he slayed the dragon of can he win in the postseason? Listen, I don't think they won the Super Bowl because of Sam Darnold. But most importantly, they didn't lose it either. And you could argue that part of the reason the Patriots lost was because of the play of Drake. I know Drake was injured. I know.

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401.351 - 414.957 Leila Rahimi

But the point is, that's where this kind of gets open for discussion. Caleb Williams deserves to be in the top 10. There's no doubt about that. I don't know, Groats. I think he might be a number seven player.

415.122 - 436.387 Mark Grote

Maybe, but then I look at the two guys that are behind Caleb Williams. Jared Goff is 9. Joe Burrow is 10. You talk about neck and neck and neck. You could have put Caleb Williams at 9 or 10. You could have put a mix of any of those three guys to me between 8, 9, and 10. As in, I could have seen Caleb at 10 and Burrow at 9.

436.447 - 441.653 Leila Rahimi

You know who's not on this list? Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes.

442.139 - 444.244 Mark Grote

For one year and one year only, ladies and gentlemen.

444.384 - 446.729 Leila Rahimi

Right at ACL Patrick Mahomes. Is that why?

Chapter 5: What did the Bears stadium rally in Arlington Heights reveal?

518.144 - 531.702 Mark Grote

during the regular season. So I think he deserves a top five spot. Justin Herbert's always interesting too because he's great. He's got this beautiful arm, but does he win? Does he come through in the big spots? I don't know if I'm comfortable with him as a top five guy.

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531.782 - 550.025 Leila Rahimi

There's a lot of criticism now that Sam Darnold slayed a dragon that didn't entirely exist about who's reliable and who's winning in the playoffs and all that. The Chargers remain bizarrely inconsistent, but... But you know Justin Herbert's going to throw for 4,000. So that's what makes this tricky.

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552.909 - 562.662 Mark Grote

Number three. This is Five On It at 104.3. The score with Laila Rahimi and Mark Grody. Here's question number three. On Monday, Cubs manager Craig Council said this about Seiya Suzuki's role this season.

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563.023 - 592.101 Unknown

He DH'd the vast majority of the year. The second half, we saw him in the outfield quite a bit more. And last year... Say a DH-ing last year was a function of the roster, just a function of acquiring Tucker. That's just how the roster fits together. This year it's going to look differently. We're going to see him in right field a lot and looking forward to it.

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592.121 - 603.872 Unknown

I think Say has always, you know, Say has had just some not, he's just had some dropped balls, frankly. Like that's what's happened. The rest of the stuff's been solid.

604.156 - 616.391 Mark Grote

It's Craig Council talking about Seiya Suzuki's role this season. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the confidence meter, trademark, where do you rate your level of belief in Suzuki's defensive ability in right field?

616.691 - 619.554 Leila Rahimi

Seven. That's being generous.

619.574 - 619.895 Mark Grote

Wow.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of the Bears potentially moving to Indiana?

619.955 - 622.578 Mark Grote

So you have a lot of confidence in him.

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622.978 - 644.724 Leila Rahimi

I have more than 50%. Okay. But I do know that the Cubs have lost some games because of Seah in right field. Now, granted, they've lost some games because of other people in right field. And I get that. But I think Seah's right field play improved enough last season to where I'm not as concerned about it.

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645.585 - 672.75 Leila Rahimi

What makes me more raise an eyebrow at this point is, once again, you are having to manage... I think the nuances of your team. Is Seiya Suzuki in right field because you know he's a more effective hitter when he plays in right field? So then you've got to manage that risk-reward. Then there's the risk-reward of, well, how is Matt Shaw going to develop offensively if he doesn't get regular reps?

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673.41 - 692.409 Leila Rahimi

Combine that with, what do we know about Moises Ballesteros? And that's where this gets tricky. It's almost like when we were talking about the playoffs last year and trying to figure out who was starting or if they were opening and how that was going to go in the jigsaw puzzle. I feel like we're still doing that a bit with the position players on the Cubs. Are we not?

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692.849 - 711.271 Mark Grote

We are because trying to figure out where Matt Shaw fits in exactly. I mean, I can't. This is one of those times where we could all ask Craig Council all of these questions about all of these players, including somebody like Daniel Palencia, who was named as the closer. I can't wait to see what it actually looks like once they get going.

711.392 - 721.689 Mark Grote

I would give the number six, I would say, in terms of some a little bit more concerned players. Oh, no, wait. The higher the number, the more concerned, right? No, no, no. Confidence meter.

721.969 - 725.537 Leila Rahimi

So you're correct. If you're more concerned, that means the number should be lower.

725.557 - 735.177 Mark Grote

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I am more concerned. So I am at a six right there. You can overcome, say, a Suzuki. I mean, we have to be able to do that.

735.157 - 758.768 Mark Grote

it's like he'll be fine for a while out there and then just inexplicably it seems like either just badly misjudge a ball and usually when it's a bad play it's initially there's an excuse given like what happened there was it the sun did the wind push it was it the lights and it's like against the Braves a couple years ago that was outright misfield yeah there was no excuse that was just misplaying of a ball

Chapter 7: How is the Bears' draft strategy impacted by their salary cap situation?

804.952 - 815.732 Leila Rahimi

But that's kind of where I sit with this. I'm like, wait a second. What was all this one-in-a-million talk? What was all this Zach Gallin is going to be here? There's a six-man rotation and it's sunshine and lollipops.

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815.752 - 828.495 Mark Grote

Wasn't it with Bruce that I asked the question? By the time it's all said and done, the same question I asked Dempster, and he said, Kate Horton, by the time it's all said and done, who's going to be the ace pitcher? And I thought maybe Justin Steele, and he's like, no, Zach Gallin.

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828.796 - 834.202 Leila Rahimi

And Bruce has sources. But what Bruce doesn't have is control of the market.

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834.342 - 836.405 Mark Grote

Correct. And Bruce, we trust.

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836.725 - 861.113 Leila Rahimi

So if Zach Allen says, I want to go back to Arizona and bet on myself for a measly $22 million, then he's going to do that. And I understand loyalty. And, you know, we all have it to a full. But on its face, I'm like, wait a second here. Zach Allen's getting paid less than Shardie Minogue at a pitch. I don't like it. I don't like it.

861.133 - 864.98 Mark Grote

So you would say the Cubs have not done enough to improve their starting rotation?

865.04 - 870.129 Leila Rahimi

I don't even know if the answer is yes or no. I just really wanted to use this time to complain about this issue.

870.149 - 872.133 Mark Grote

Penalize her for not answering the question, guys.

872.253 - 876.761 Leila Rahimi

No, because it really comes down to that for me. But do I have a defined feeling about it yet? I don't know.

Chapter 8: What are the next steps for the Bears as they approach free agency?

883.272 - 906.677 Leila Rahimi

And you know what else? I feel like I discovered him a long time ago before anybody else did. There was this random game where Father Sackowitz was being honored from the cathedral at the Sox game. And it was Sox and Marlins. And it was in like 2019 or something in like July. And I'm like, dang, who is this pitcher for the Marlins? He's just like mowing down capable and decently good Sox hitters.

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906.657 - 907.918 Leila Rahimi

It was Zach Gallant.

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907.979 - 909.701 Mark Grote

How you doing, Zach? I'll tell you what no one's talking about.

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909.741 - 926.501 Leila Rahimi

Nobody was talking about Zach Gallant at that time. And then I was always like, oh, that guy's really good. And then you remember he had traded for Jazz Chisholm. It was like a one-for-one. I was like, what a compelling trade, a one-for-one, like a true one-for-one. Very interesting. And two positions of note, you know, and then he rose to success.

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927.462 - 930.285 Leila Rahimi

And then I was like, oh, maybe he'll come here and pitch. No.

930.923 - 953.589 Mark Grote

So it's personal, in other words. So now we're really getting to the bottom of this. I discovered Zach Allen. Not the Marlins front office. Not scouts. Did I not discover he looked like Kyle Mooney, though? Can I see you and raise you where he looks like Kyle Mooney? To answer the question, I will dare step out, Layla, and say yes. They are better because guess what?

953.769 - 963.119 Mark Grote

I cannot wait to see Cade Horton for an entire year with the Chicago Cubs now that he is healthy. It was painful that he was not available.

963.139 - 964.02 Leila Rahimi

Why are you jinxing Cade Horton?

964.3 - 986.224 Mark Grote

I'm not jinxing Cade Horton. I can't wait to see his whole... I didn't say I can't wait to see him be a Cy Young Award winner. I didn't say... I didn't make any bold predictions. Now I said it. Now it's out there. But... Absolutely, with Justin Steele presumably coming back at some point in time in the season with Edward Cabrera. What are you going to get out of him? And Matthew Boyd.

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