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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

5 On It & poor Matt Nagy (Hour 2)

27 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the Terry Bores celebration mentioned?

2.039 - 4.265 Layla Rahimi

This hour is sponsored by Wintrust.

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It's time for five on Nailah Rahimi and Marshall Harris with Mark Grote. Bringing you five topics on their mind today on Chicago Sports Radio 670 The Score. Number one. This is a legendary day on The Score because we are honoring a legend. Tune in today from 12 to 7 p.m.

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right after this show for honoring an original, a Terry Bores celebration of life, which will include former co-workers of Terry's as well as current and former Score personalities. The show will be hosted by Matt Spiegel. It will be a true celebration of Terry's life. That's today, starting at noon right after this show on The Score and the Odyssey app. Now, here's question number one.

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Bears Offensive Coordinator Declan Doyle is a hot name right now. Last week, Doyle interviewed for the Eagles' OC job. This morning on Mully and Haw, David Haw reported this.

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55.598 - 67.895 David Haw

Declan Doyle will be pursued. This is what I know. Declan Doyle was offered the chance to be the play caller for the Philadelphia Eagles. and turned it down to come back to Chicago.

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It's David Ha this morning. I'm Mully and Ha. The Ravens have also requested to interview Declan Doyle. On a scale of 1 to 10 on the HeGone meter, where do you rank the likelihood of Declan Doyle taking a job in this hiring cycle?

86.032 - 105.071 Layla Rahimi

I think I put it at like a 6. I don't know that it's very much higher than that because now it depends on whether or not Lamar Jackson wants to work with Declan Doyle. And I don't think it's necessarily like, oh, he doesn't want to work with him if like they the job isn't the right fit or something.

105.732 - 127.348 Layla Rahimi

But that that given the situation in Baltimore and the discussion surrounding how that went down and the fact that John Harbaugh is no longer there. It sounds like having an offensive coordinator who is in lockstep with Lamar and is somebody who wants to work with him and adjust the offense to what the strengths are of that team is priority number one.

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Given that, I don't necessarily know if that's the particular job Declan Doyle wants. If it is, then it's a one or zero and one, he's gone. But in this case, Declan Doyle might just be like Ben Johnson, where you wait it out, everybody thinks you've interviewed well, and then different opportunities come up the next year that may better suit you.

Chapter 2: Who is Declan Doyle and why is he a hot name in coaching discussions?

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Well, number one, I would say maybe less dysfunction. You've got a clear MVP when healthy in Lamar Jackson. You saw how they started the season when he was unhealthy and how they made a late charge and push and almost got over the mountain, if you will, at the end of the season. I really do feel like Declan Doyle is going to be a head coach in the NFL.

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It's just a matter of how long is it going to take? And staying with Ben Johnson might be the best route.

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241.539 - 258.456 Layla Rahimi

The 2022 coaching cycle... was summarized last week on the social medias. Only two people out of that coaching cycle that had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. 10.

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Just like this year.

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259.979 - 283.215 Layla Rahimi

Only two were retained. So, Matt Eberflus, number one. Nathaniel Hackett. Lovey Smith with Houston. Doug Peterson was in Jacksonville at the time. The Raiders hired Josh McDaniels. Mike McDaniel was with Miami. Kevin O'Connell with Minnesota, so there's one. Dennis Allen with New Orleans. Brian Dable with the Giants. And Todd Bowles with Tampa Bay.

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Wait, who's... I missed the second one. Who's the still... Nathaniel Hackett. Oh, yeah.

Chapter 3: What factors influence Declan Doyle's potential job offers?

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Yeah, it's worth putting out of your mind entirely. Don't you remember when they had to bring in the helper?

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This is bad.

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297.547 - 300.129 Layla Rahimi

Because of the fourth quarter situations that were occurring.

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This is bad. Although I think with the Ravens, like the Ravens is more of a sure job than the Eagles. The Eagles job, you go, you be the offensive coordinator. You either get a head coaching job out of that or you get fired at the end of the year.

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Quarterback is the difference maker here. Like quarterback makes everything make sense.

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And it's interesting because one is a Super Bowl MVP. The other one has never been to the Super Bowl, but he is a regular season MVP.

321.148 - 324.591 Layla Rahimi

Right. So that's quite the mess.

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Number two. The Browns announced on Monday night that they completed a second head coach interview with Rams past game coordinator Nate Schielhaus. Not house. Schielhaus. No, it's not.

338.849 - 339.39 Layla Rahimi

No, don't do it.

Chapter 4: How does Lamar Jackson's situation affect coaching decisions?

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Because it's the Browns.

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399.761 - 410.731 Layla Rahimi

Man, this Browns situation is getting hilarious. So just to be nosy, I went over to our sister station in Cleveland, Ken Carman and Anthony Lima.

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You got that quick, too.

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412.237 - 433.478 Layla Rahimi

And Ken Carman was like, I have a feeling the Browns are going to make a hire today. They did not. And I was just wondering, like, when you're in it, you're talking about it completely differently, as we know. You're trying to see where the team is coming from. You're giving some people the benefit of the doubt. You understand the intricacies of the process. Not us.

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I just get swooping and be like, what the hell's going on over here? Oh, you think you're making a hire today? Today of all days? Yes.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Browns' head coaching search?

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So... I think it'll happen.

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Okay. This goes back to what we were just talking about. You got to put your chips in the right pile, right? You got to put your... If you're rolling the dice... The Browns is not somewhere I would want to be.

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465.682 - 469.546 Layla Rahimi

I love that they, on the team website, are keeping an interview tracker.

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Yeah, that's pretty common. But it's... Is it long, the list?

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Yes!

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With Shilhas, I would just stay with the Rams. It's a very insulated situation. Continue to learn and wait until a better opportunity comes up.

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Todd Munkin's going to coach that team, I think.

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I like that idea.

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But if he doesn't, he has a job.

Chapter 6: How does Matt Nagy's past impact current coaching discussions?

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On Monday, Cubs left-hander Justin Steele tweeted the following.

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quote was just brought to my attention that Nico Horner wasn't on the top 100 list I wouldn't take that list very seriously if that's the case whoever made it was obviously not trying to be locked in or take it too serious the numbers speak for themselves end of Justin Steel tweet do you agree with Steel that Horner was snubbed from MLB's top 100 list

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547.068 - 568.096 Layla Rahimi

I like that Justin Steele took the role of Cubs commenter, you know, whenever he got injured and then he would tweet here and there. And I appreciate a little bit of commentary out of Justin Steele. I think he got pretty good at it toward the end of the season. You know, one of us, so to speak, but different because he works for the team. So he's on to something here.

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568.556 - 591.79 Layla Rahimi

Why wasn't Nico Horner mentioned? Nico Horner is third in world leaders among NL position players last year. It was Geraldo Perdomo with seven. A guy named Shohei Otani, who I hear might be pretty good, was 6.6. Then it was Nico Horner. Then it was Juan Soto, Matt Olsen, and then PCA. Who is in that list, correct?

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He is.

593.021 - 606.517 Layla Rahimi

So therefore, I think based on that alone, not to mention the eye test, not to mention that he was second in the National League in batting average, which still matters to me, that Justin Steele is correct. He should be in the list.

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Well, the man's 27th in total war period. So like, there's that. Also that. That seems like it's pretty high when you're talking about top 100 guys. I think it's interesting that, you know, you got to go down to 35, I believe it is, before you find the first Cub, which is Alex Bregman. And then the next Cub on the list at number 40 is Pete Crow Armstrong. Then after that, it's Michael Bush at 67.

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After that, Seiya Suzuki at 77. Just within the Cubs. I think Nico Horner's better than Seiya Suzuki.

646.111 - 646.453 Layla Rahimi

Yeah.

Chapter 7: What are the key differences between Matt Nagy and Ben Johnson?

686.607 - 693.614 Layla Rahimi

I don't think that Nico cusses on the mic like Jalen, though. Nobody reacts to not being in the top 100 like Jalen did.

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I wish he would do it, though, but that's not Nico's personality. Oh, that would be entertaining.

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698.018 - 707.186 Layla Rahimi

The best part was when I was tossing to that sound, as we like to say, when I was throwing to it, it was like, here's Jalen Johnson.

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As I go through these rankings, I do notice something. A premium seems to be put on power because you got guys like Kerry Carpenter and his 26 home runs making the top 100.

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721.477 - 723.8 Layla Rahimi

And that would make sense for Colson Loveland, why he's on there.

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But also Colson, Colson has done it how many times?

729.827 - 740.661 Layla Rahimi

Like how many seasons has he played in Major League Baseball? But that would make it make sense. It's kind of like with zips, you know, that positional value weights the algorithm. Like shortstop inherently is going to be worth more short than third.

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So, I don't know. I think he should definitely be in there.

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Beep!

Chapter 8: What lessons can be learned from the decisions made during the Bears' coaching era?

876.819 - 878.947 Layla Rahimi

I remain encouraged by this.

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I think Modest was Zealous is... a step away from really taking off as an NBA player. And I love this because how many three-time Rising Stars guys do you know? That means you have to do it in the G League, you have to do it as a rookie, and you have to do it as a second-year player. That's hard to do.

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Also, did I see Matt McClung scored 40 last night?

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Did you see Matt McClung, much like Modest Boozles, also turn down an invite to the NBA dunk contest? So he will not be out here for the four-peat?

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909.743 - 915.571 Layla Rahimi

What are we doing here? Why did he turn it down? And yeah, why did Modest turn it down? Why are all of you turning it down?

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Do you remember Modest's appearance in the dunk contest?

918.095 - 924.164 Layla Rahimi

Oh yeah, that didn't go well. But that's, hey, hey, LeBron shows you that even at 41, you can redeem yourself from your previous year.

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You know who was never in the dunk contest but promised to be in the dunk contest?

927.87 - 928.33 Layla Rahimi

LeBron.

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