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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

Adam Hoge talks priorities for Bears' offseason (Hour 2)

23 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What were the highlights of the Bears' successful 2025 season?

0.031 - 24.722 Adam Hogue

the score adam hogg says adam hogue bears insider what's up everyone my name is adam hogue this is the chgo bears podcast host of the hogan johns podcast i've said this a few times ben johnson does not seem like a first-time head coach it's just like that's not the vibes that we've had with this coaching staff coming in adam hogue adam hoagie or hog excuse me i don't know how to pronounce the last name on 670 the score

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27.115 - 34.628 Marshall Harris

Adam Hogue joins us on Fridays during the football season, and this is the last official, official Adam Hogue visit, isn't it, Ray?

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35.738 - 39.363 Leila Rahimi

That's correct. That's correct. We're going to wrap up our season with Adam Hogue.

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39.383 - 43.308 Marshall Harris

I don't like all these goodbyes, especially the beginning year, the calendar year.

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43.568 - 48.355 Leila Rahimi

But you know what? We've gotten an extended run because we've gotten playoff Bears football.

48.495 - 53.081 Unknown

It's the end of beginnings. It's the end of beginnings. It's that one song, right?

53.201 - 54.643 Marshall Harris

You've been back in Chicago.

54.683 - 64.176 Unknown

Yeah, it is because it is the end of a great beginning, hopefully to something we're going to be seeing for decades. I don't know if that's the spirit of the song, but I just made it that.

64.156 - 66.799 Marshall Harris

I think I like it. Bears. Amen.

Chapter 2: What are the key priorities for the Bears' offseason?

161.845 - 165.191 Marshall Harris

Back in the day. Somewhere Kenny Loggins is singing a song just because.

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165.251 - 169.999 Mark Grote

Same time period as like the Columbia House, a penny for, you know, 18 albums or whatever it was.

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170.24 - 180.478 Marshall Harris

Oh, yeah. And for the parental generation at the time, it was Time Life. But for us, it was the Columbia House, get all the CDs or cassettes.

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181.184 - 185.372 Mark Grote

We have a request to talk Blackhawks hockey. I just want to let you know that. Yeah, in terms of the content drought.

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185.392 - 188.498 Unknown

They're trying to help Lawrence and Layla out with content.

188.679 - 203.007 Marshall Harris

Also, I would like to take this time as we wait on Adam Hogue to bring up some of the texts that we've gotten because we had a lot of good audience participation. Like, for example, 847, the pleasant surprise on the offense is the amount of sacks taken. You're not wrong.

203.881 - 207.467 Mark Grote

That's what, third fewest, I believe, in football is what they ended up with?

207.868 - 217.885 Marshall Harris

847 said it was Aikman in the Washington game. I believe it was both. I believe people took issue with both. And that was something that we reviewed as a team.

217.905 - 224.877 Unknown

Oh, but that was right. That's true, though. That's where he was. I think the texter is right, because I had said it was where Troy was talking about

Chapter 3: How does Adam Hoge evaluate the Bears' special teams performance?

1010.482 - 1030.734 Adam Hogue

And he's got a vision for all these guys. Now I think he can find a way to keep using him, but that's sort of the unknown question and answer. What does Ben Johnson truly feel about DJ more as purely as a, as a weapon in his scheme? I, I, And no one's ever going to come out and probably say that out loud.

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1031.295 - 1038.866 Adam Hogue

But the actions and how this all gets handled, either this offseason or the offseason after that, I think we will eventually learn the answer to that question.

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1039.607 - 1049.862 Marshall Harris

Adam, what is this already people are talking noise about Caleb Williams disrespect that you guys were talking about on the CHGO podcast?

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1050.28 - 1069.302 Adam Hogue

Well, it was very specific. Seth Walder does a great job at ESPN, had a list of his top 100 players, specifically in terms of MVP. So if he were to rank the top 100 players that he would vote for for MVP, and he had all this criteria, and Caleb wasn't on that list.

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1069.383 - 1094.04 Adam Hogue

um at all if you want at all in the top 100 but not only that like he had cj stroud at 37 um i just and the point the point that we got into a little bit and i don't have it all in front of you but you know i think sometimes what happens with these analytics and i am somebody that quotes epa all the time like i enjoy analytics i find the value in um

1094.02 - 1114.841 Adam Hogue

But when we kind of go overboard where we're cherry picking some of these numbers, whether it's completion percentage over expected or, you know, missed target rate or like whatever it is, which was some of the things he was pointing out where Caleb was just middle of the pack or I think in. Miss Target Raid, if I'm quoting that directly, I think he was actually dead last.

1115.583 - 1137.346 Adam Hogue

Look, we all know he has to get more accurate, but at what point does coming back in seven games where you're losing under two minutes matter? What point does... Everything he did in the fourth quarter all season count. Like sometimes the analytics just, they don't tell the whole story. The tape does. What we see with our eyes.

1137.366 - 1155.736 Adam Hogue

I mean, anybody who watched football this year can tell you that Caleb Williams was a better quarterback than CJ Stroud. So what are we doing here when we're just trying to cherry pick some of these advanced numbers? um, to, to, to just discredit a season that we all saw was very good. I just, I doesn't make sense to me.

1155.816 - 1169.877 Adam Hogue

So I don't, unless we're just trying to sort of confirm some of the biases that maybe we, we had already made up. I don't really understand how Caleb Williams, uh, can't be considered one of the top 100 players in the NFL this season.

Chapter 4: What changes are expected for the Bears' defensive lineup?

1610.788 - 1634.656 Marshall Harris

Not just because of the apron and structure, but also because defense has mattered more at the five than it has in years past. It's gone a little bit more traditional. As we've seen, multifaceted bigs tend to give a lot of teams problems. Kobe White is probably the most likely to get traded, I think, based on what he's getting paid. As we mentioned earlier, was it 12 and change?

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1634.676 - 1636.238 Mark Grote

12.5, I think.

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1636.278 - 1651.54 Marshall Harris

Yeah, so 12.5, roughly. And then when you consider that, plus the fact that he's on an expiring deal and he is offensively able to provide you pop, Kobe is 12.9. So I'm sorry, Kobe. I didn't give you your money that you rightfully deserve.

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1651.52 - 1665.36 Mark Grote

Did not mean to short you the $400,000. I was reading an article in The Athletic about the biggest trades, chips that are out there. The best fits mentioned for Kobe White. The Mavericks, the Clippers, the Timberwolves, the Magic, the Bucks, and the Rockets.

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1665.408 - 1667.351 Marshall Harris

That's a lot of teams. The Rockets?

1667.831 - 1684.033 Mark Grote

The Rockets. Kobe would be an upgrade for a lot of guys. One of the issues with the Rockets right now is Kevin Durant's playing too much and they're relying too much on his scoring. Kobe helps solve that need because when I say, hey, who's the next best scorer on the Rockets? What do you have after Kevin Durant? Exactly.

1684.494 - 1690.622 Marshall Harris

Well, I mean, teams have been relying on KD's minutes and scoring for virtually all of his career.

1691.277 - 1718.061 Mark Grote

Yeah, it's okay when you're 30. When you're pushing closer to 35 plus, it's not as okay. And that's the thing. You can't wear him down in the regular season just to get to the postseason and have him tired. So I think with Kobe at age 25 would be a valuable piece to have on any of these teams. The problem is, what is it you think the Bulls are asking back for these players? That's the issue.

1718.598 - 1721.985 Unknown

What would be the minimum you would accept?

Chapter 5: What are the implications of the upcoming NBA trade deadline for the Bulls?

2313.529 - 2318.043 Mark Grote

That sounds dangerous. Like if you're walking by a tree and then pop.

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2318.063 - 2325.613 Marshall Harris

Like I can't be dealing with trees just like being lost to cold weather. Like we already lose enough to fires. This is like an extra defeat.

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2325.833 - 2326.534 Adam Hogue

That is bad.

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2326.634 - 2349.878 Marshall Harris

I know. I'm like, really? Like now it's so cold we're worrying about that. So here's what happens. The water expands as it freezes. And because it is not liquid, it can happen usually under very dry, drastic drops in temperature. That expansion puts intense pressure on the bark and wood which sometimes causes it to crack or split apart, producing a loud bang that may sound like an explosion.

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2351.596 - 2364.774 Mark Grote

This actually makes a lot of sense now that I'm thinking about it because when you fill up an ice tray in the water, it fills up bigger than what the water is because that's how it expands as it's ice. Now that's happening inside of a tree. Pop goes the weasel and the weasel goes pop.

2364.874 - 2370.662 Marshall Harris

And that's why you don't freeze a lot of stuff in glass bottles like, say, soda, for example.

2370.802 - 2371.983 Mark Grote

Because then it'll pop.

2372.324 - 2394.049 Marshall Harris

So then the follow-up is from KCCI, the CBS affiliate in Des Moines, and the headline practically screams at me in Midwest. Iowa weather. Know your trees aren't going to explode during extreme cold. Well, why not? The Iowa DNR says sap that's worn by the sun during the day can rapidly freeze, causing it to expand when the temperatures drop.

2394.99 - 2411.794 Marshall Harris

But claims of exploding trees is dramatic, according to a consumer horticulture extension specialist with Iowa State. Explosion is probably a much more dramatic term for what may happen, although it might not likely happen. Well, get out of here with your facts and reasonable points.

Chapter 6: Which players are likely to be traded before the Bulls' deadline?

2711.679 - 2716.107 Marshall Harris

847 said they like the sound effects, just because my exploding tree is just... Nice.

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2716.548 - 2717.75 Unknown

Wash or warsh?

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2718.131 - 2722.096 Marshall Harris

There it is. It should be Worsh. Worsh is more fun to say.

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2722.196 - 2728.186 Unknown

It's harder. That one has always blown me away. Like, it's hard to pencil in an R into Worsh.

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2728.206 - 2729.608 Marshall Harris

That is a Kansas thing.

2729.708 - 2730.35 Unknown

Is that what it is?

2730.39 - 2734.697 Marshall Harris

Worsh the car? I don't get it. Yes. My ex-husband's family is from western Kansas.

2734.717 - 2735.478 Mark Grote

It's Indiana, too.

2735.498 - 2740.426 Marshall Harris

And I didn't think there was anything very specific about that place at all. But Worsh is one of them.

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