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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

If Caleb Williams isn't the best Bears QB of all time, who is it?

28 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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105.267 - 133.075 Marshall Rahimi

Thanks to a friend of the program, Kevin Harlan, right there. It's Rahimi Harris and Grody on Chicago Sports Radio 670. The score asking you, are you ready to proclaim, to go along with the idea that Caleb Williams is the greatest Chicago Bears quarterback ever? Are we heading into a dangerous territory even asking that question? 312-644-6767 is the number.

133.295 - 159.699 Marshall Rahimi

We will definitely take some of your calls on that. If I may, Marshall, I would like to present the opposing opinion. Because I'm listening. That's what's going on with me right now. I'm listening, and I'm pushing back, and I'm challenging you on other quarterbacks that were not great, but would challenge. That would challenge Caleb Williams for greatest Chicago Bears quarterback ever.

159.759 - 171.33 Marshall Rahimi

And right now, just to catch people up, I would say let's deep dive Jim McMahon, which we kind of did already before the break. And let's talk about Jay Cutler a little bit before we really jump to conclusions.

171.691 - 192.234 Mark Grote

Fair. It's fair to do that. You know, the reason why you are listening and you're open is because I've slowly over the course of less than a year, Mark, that we've been working together on this show. worked you out of your PTSD, Bears related, on many different things. And I think quarterback is one of them.

192.635 - 217.251 Mark Grote

And I think that's the reason why you and other Caleb, I'm not there yet people, would be reticent, hesitant to just say, yeah, he's the guy. I get that. But Caleb, with the comebacks, with having to be the actual engine, with all these other teams you're talking about, they had... A defense and a running game, and it was like the quarterback hopefully doesn't screw it up.

Chapter 2: Why is Caleb Williams considered a potential top Bears QB?

411.791 - 420.525 Marshall Rahimi

And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I know the quantity is not large of interceptions for Caleb Williams. But there have been times you're like, how did you think you were going to get that in there?

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421.096 - 441.824 Mark Grote

I think it's all situational. The context is important, and I think you're talking about big spots. And Caleb, when he throws an interception on a fourth down that's basically a punt, I'm not really upset with that. Look at his last throw of the season. We don't even know definitively why it went wrong, but I would argue Caleb should have thrown the check down. That's just my personal opinion.

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441.844 - 447.171 Mark Grote

And he's not getting indicted for it, though. No, I've killed him for it. I said I think that's more on Caleb than it is on DJ Moore.

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447.231 - 447.531 Marshall Rahimi

Really?

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447.672 - 450.175 Mark Grote

And I think it's more on Ben Johnson than either one of those.

450.155 - 475.74 Marshall Rahimi

guys then you you've been the voice that has not been you because i i mean to me it's like if you did like a poll it's 85 dj more let's put it this way 85 not caleb's fault nope i didn't hear any outrage i think that's based on caleb being the guy who put them in a position to even be and it's justified throw yes two things can be true i think you're right i think you're right in that case nah i can make any throw

475.72 - 495.855 Mark Grote

See? And he's been doing it all season long. The best thing that Tim Jenkins ever told us over a course of us having him on every Tuesday for a whole season, by the way, was Tim Jenkins explaining when he goes to look at the highlight throws that he wants to... He'll go through some guys and it'll be a whole season, maybe like three throws. He says, Caleb Williams does that...

496.004 - 503.898 Mark Grote

And it's a collection of throws, multiples, for each game of amazing throws. That, to me, tells you what it is and what it ain't.

503.918 - 523.165 Marshall Rahimi

Well, and that is like if we're just separating from the argument or whatever this is that's happening right now. He's just the best player to ever play the position for this game. Chicago Bears. My opinion on Caleb was throughout the season, you know there were some moments early in the season where I was like, I don't know. I'm not sure what's going on here with Caleb.

Chapter 3: What challenges do Bears quarterbacks face historically?

640.275 - 653.147 Marshall Rahimi

Hey, I got what I wanted out of this season. I know the Bears have a quarterback. Let's take some of these calls before I don't take the calls. 3-1-2-6-44-67-67. Bob's been waiting. He's in Libertyville. What's going on, Bob? You're on Rahimi Harrison-Grody on the score.

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653.87 - 664.121 Unknown

Hey, guys. Hey, Mark. Can we stop with the boomer and unk takes of the 85 Bears in comparison to today's modern NFL offenses?

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664.882 - 687.247 Marshall Rahimi

Let me ask you this. How do you go about that when the quarterbacks were asked to do things differently back then? For sure, if Jim McMahon was asked to throw the ball 30 times a game, 25 to 30 times a game... maybe he would have the numbers of some of the elite quarterbacks now. So while I appreciate the boomer attack, I get it. No, I really do.

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687.627 - 699.182 Marshall Rahimi

And I'm not a boomer, but I understand where they call it. I really do. But it was different. So you also are not accounting for that. You can boomer me all you want, but you're not accounting for it.

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699.567 - 714.99 Unknown

Mark, you're not accounting for today's defenses play at a speed way faster than those 85 defenses played. They were based off of intimidation, lack of rules that allowed for late hits and intimidation. Today is based on scheme and speed.

715.29 - 729.051 Marshall Rahimi

How about how protected the quarterbacks are today? You can't touch a quarterback. How about Jim McMahon getting demolished and hurt? Guys having it out. Gilbert Brown. Not Gilbert Brown. Who's my guess?

729.031 - 745.027 Unknown

Well, how many picks did he throw in the 80s, okay, with the lack of speed and scheme going on? So how would lack of intimidation and late hits help his stats if he was playing against slower defenses where guys were having cigarettes at halftime?

745.107 - 772.502 Marshall Rahimi

But you obviously didn't watch Jim McMahon. You're assuming Jim McMahon couldn't keep up with the speed of players today. I guess that's what you're doing, even though you haven't ever seen the guy play, and I'm guessing you probably haven't even watched Highlights. Is he gone? Okay. Honestly, it doesn't make me mad when people... Because I get tired of it, having to reference the 80s Bears.

772.562 - 792.55 Marshall Rahimi

And it was a spectacular time, too, all the same. I'll never... take that away from my enjoyment of it. But I hate to have to reference that. But if you don't put Jim McMahon in, and by the way, I haven't even said that Jim McMahon was better. I'm just saying that you have to put Jim McMahon and Jay Cutler in.

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