Jim Bowden calls in to discuss the Cubs and White Sox as we gear up for the trade deadline

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What did Jed Hoyer say about the Cubs' trade priorities and need for pitching?

Jed Hoyer 0:00

rahimi harrison grody oh sorry but watch your profanity you said pop of the mind no no you know what that's that you gotta let it flow our poor producer ray spilled his coffee so thanks for christening our studio over here no no it's it's okay it's okay middays 10 to 2 on 104.3 the score we put ourselves in a really good position and um you know as i've said i think that um not ruling out any kind of position player transaction, but the expectation would be that we'll focus on our pitching stuff. I think I've said to you guys a million times, you can't have enough pitching. You never have enough. And this first half has kind of proven that. We thought we went in with real depth, and we got to the end of our depth and had to trade for guys and pick up guys.

Jed Hoyer 0:47

And so I think the hope of guys coming back off the injured list, I don't think that's going to temper our need. I'd love to have, you know, oh, we have too much. I don't see that ever really happening, you know? So I don't think that that will impact it considerably.

Vinny Rotino 1:04

Could not agree more. That was Jed Hoyer. This is Rahimi Harrison-Grody on 104.3 The Score. And we go to our hotline. He is joining us on the hotline. Jim Bowden, GM, is his name on X. He is the major league analyst and insider for CBS Sports, The Athletic. New column just out today. And MLB Network Radio on Sirius XM. Former GM, Jim Bowden. Jim, thanks for joining us.

Jim Bowden 1:28

Layla, Mark, thanks for having me on your show. I appreciate it.

Vinny Rotino 1:31

It's funny because I see your latest with the athletic regards, Mason Miller, and just the discussion surrounding the trade deadline. And I feel like this isn't the first time that he's been discussed. You know, the offseason, that name was floated out there. How seriously can you take A.J. Preller and the Padres when it comes to the possibility of Miller getting traded? Because I think the price has got to be really high.

Jim Bowden 1:55

Yeah, it's going to be higher than what they gave up to get him. And they gave up Leo DeVries, one of the top prospects in baseball and a future all-star shortstop. And that would just be the starting point of what he would want back. I mean, look, he really doesn't have interest in trading Mason Miller because of the years of control. He's the best pitcher in baseball. I mean, this stuff is just off the charts, whether it's the 102-mile-an-hour fastball or the slider. And now he's got a changeup as well. So he's not looking to move him. But if somebody wants to give him a franchise-changing type trade where he can get three or four players back, and I'll use the example of the Garrett Crochet trade with the White Sox and Red Sox,

Jim Bowden 2:35

It's going to take that kind of return to get him. It's not going to be one prospect straight up for him like he was able to do when he traded for him. So if it's a crochet return, then I would expect if someone were to offer that, then I would expect AJ to trade him. If not, then I think he'll just hold on to him. And more likely, if he decides to sell, more likely he sells on Michael King than Mason Miller because of the control issues.

Vinny Rotino 3:01

Well, I think that's it, is make me an offer that I can't refuse. And those have happened before, as you mentioned, that crochet deal being one of them. So I think it comes to, there's only a certain amount of teams, we've talked about this with Scooble, Jim, but I don't know that we've really gotten into it about Mason Miller, that have enough to be able to make that type of offer. So what teams do you think even could?

Jim Bowden 3:24

Yankees, White Sox, Brewers would be the three teams that come to mind out of the get-go that um certainly have enough if they decide they want to pay the price but i think the follow-up question is can you see any of them doing that and my response back to them would be no i i don't see any of them you know milwaukee is built on building for the long term i think if they give up any of their top prospects it's going to be in a school deal and it won't be quantity the white socks have worked too hard to get their franchise to where it is right now where they've got a chance to be perennial contenders i don't think they're going to trade their next wave of top prospects to do it not that they wouldn't offer one or two to try to get it done but i don't think they would offer what it would take to get them so if i was a betting person as of today i would say that it'll probably be a padre next tuesday