Mike Sando breaks down why Caleb Williams has risen to 'tier 2' QB

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What is the Athletic’s quarterback tier system and why does it matter?

Mark Grote 0:01
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Unknown 0:06
The extra offensive lineman moved. Free play for Williams as the flag is down. So Caleb looking to launch. Touchdown! So it was a free play. Williams taking advantage of it. And if the flag is on the Niners, we're an extra point from a tie game.
Ben Johnson 0:25
I don't know that we were there to start the season last year. I thought we got a lot closer as the year went. You know, we spent a lot of time throughout the week just one-on-one making sure that we are aligned that way. I do think that's where the best ones end up. So we're on a quest to get there.
Mark Grote 0:41
Some people would say that the highlight that you heard, Caleb Williams to Colson Loveland in that Cincinnati game, courtesy of NBC television, was where it all kind of started for Caleb Williams. Certainly for Colson Loveland and that connection, which we're all looking forward to. This year, you heard the head coach Ben Johnson right after that, as we welcome you back into Rahimi Harrison-Grody on 104.3 The Score. Marshall, what do you say we talk about Caleb Williams and all of the quarterbacks of consequence in the National Football League? Would you like to do that?
Marshall Harris 1:14
I would like to do it with a foremost expert who combs every front office, the coaching staffs to find out what the people who are closest to it feel about the situation.
Mark Grote 1:24
That man is NFL senior writer for The Athletic, Mike Sando, who has quite the resume, by the way, selector for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Mike has covered every non-pandemic situation. super bowl since 1998 and maybe most importantly i don't know if he would put this down as most importantly mike has come out with the athletics 2026 quarterback tears and how long we've been doing this mike welcome back to rahimi harrison grody it's great to be here i got a big smile because it's actually fun to talk about a bearish quarterback in this thing uh
Mike Sando 2:00
So I've been doing this since 2014, Jay Cutler. We've got three years of Jay Cutler in this poll. I'm going to look at my sheet here. We've got one year of Mike Glennon, three of Trubisky, one of Foles, one of Dalton, two of Fields, and two of Caleb, okay?
Mark Grote 2:14
Oh, man, if I'm not mistaken, was Jay Cutler the only one to have appeared prominently on the list? I think 17th maybe it was, Mike?
Mike Sando 2:24
Yes, but Caleb's the first one who's higher than tier three and higher than number 17. he's 11th his 36 votes in Tier two this year are the same as the total tier votes for every other quarterback in the survey over 11 11 quarterback years, okay? So that's taking out he got five last year. But he has 36 this year.

How did Mike Sando explain Caleb Williams’ jump from Tier 3 to Tier 2?

Mike Sando 2:52
Fields had five total. Foles got one. Trubisky got seven over two years. Glennon got one. Cutler got 22 over three years. So he has the same tier two votes this year, Caleb, as all those other quarterbacks combined got.
Mark Grote 3:09
I mean, it's just so perfect. I hope we can stop giving out these devastating statistics as time goes on because, Mike, we've played this game like every once in a while we break out the list of bad quarterbacks or all the quarterbacks just to make it easy for our audience. We usually do all the Bears quarterbacks that have played relative to the Green Bay Packers, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, and it's just horrible, Mike. It's horrible.
Mike Sando 3:34
Oh, but now, so Jordan love makes it at 10. The next step is to have a higher rated tears quarterback than the Packers. I think it's so close. He's tied for 11th and we just needed somebody to downgrade love and you would have had it, but it feels like maybe that's the goal for next year.
Mark Grote 3:49
Oh, Oh man, that's amazing. And let's get into this a little bit. And I just want to give out some of the qualifications or the way Mike Sando goes about putting this together, just so people have perspective. And then we'll dig into Caleb Williams here. This is with 50 executives. and coaches ranking 35 veteran quarterbacks, 8 GMs, 5 assistant GMs, 5 former GMs, and 3 other execs, 9 head coaches, 10 defensive coordinators, 5 OCs, 2 offensive assistants, 1 defensive assistant, 2 coaches specializing in analytics as well.

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