Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show
Seems like Ben Johnson has angered a segment of the NFL coaching community
14 Jan 2026
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Chapter 1: What sparked the controversy involving Ben Johnson and the NFL coaching community?
Layla Rahimi, Marshall Harris, Mark Grody. Middays, 10 a.m. to 2 on Chicago Sports Radio 670.
We'll talk about, like, between you and LaFleur, you know, the two wins thing, the handshakes. Beyond, you know, getting this important playoff win, why is this important to you, or is there something personal beyond that?
This is a rivalry, and the city of Chicago, Green Bay, it needs to be a rivalry.
Well, Ben Johnson told you as much, and it has slowly percolated throughout the rest of the NFL and has made its way to all of the talk shows, not just ours, but the national ones as well. There's also a bit of an update here. This came across from an interview that Adam Schefter did with Jen Latta's show, The Morning Show at ESPN Milwaukee. Jen, of course, used to work here.
And it says, this is from Adam Schefter on the negotiations between Matt LaFleur and Ed Policy.
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Chapter 2: How does the rivalry between Chicago and Green Bay influence coaching dynamics?
Quote, there is no deal right now and it's a negotiation. There could be a breakthrough at any moment. And I think both sides would like to make that happen. But it's now Wednesday and they have been trying to do this for a while. The longer it lingers, the more you wonder. How I would interpret it right now is it's up in the air.
Could Matt LaFleur be a guy in Pittsburgh?
Maliflor could be a guy in many, many NFL teams' eyes, including the Packers. Say what you want, but he's still one of the best coaches in the league.
He's had some meltdowns this season, but yes, I agree with your overall sentiment. He's been successful in that in an expanded playoff, he's able to get his team in there year after year. I am curious as to how that turns out. That shakes out. That is one of those seismic type things that could happen that would really affect this division.
NFC North could end up looking like the AFC North where, you know, they've got one coach left.
Also, it's really hard, even though you know that injuries to the quarterback were an issue, injuries to one of the top five talents in the league you traded defensively was an issue. But losing five straight just doesn't look good to end a season and to lose in that way catastrophically.
I assume, you know, that's playing a bigger part in this than a lot of people realized when it came to his job security. Now, all of that said, the notable beef between Ben Johnson and Matt LaFleur has elevated to places like ESPN's first take. Here's what Stephen A. Smith said regarding Matt LaFleur and Ben Johnson.
It's bad enough. We're friends of Matt LaFleur around the league who will remain nameless. Can't stand Ben Johnson because of the feelings and the treatment they know he has towards Matt LaFleur.
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Chapter 3: What updates are there on the negotiations between Matt LaFleur and Ed Policy?
So the point that I'm telling you, this is me. I ain't giving you an opinion. I'm telling you what I was told.
Deep in thought, Marshall Harris?
I think him saying he's not giving you an opinion is him letting you know this is sourced information that he is giving you, that people do not like Ben Johnson because they are riding with Matt LaFleur.
Well, we could all name one who probably doesn't, and that's Matt LaFleur.
Well, yeah. I'm saying the Matt LaFleur camp, if you will.
Yeah, and we just told you about the connections. He comes off of that, for example, Kyle Shanahan coaching tree.
So related to that is the fact that you've got to go back to who fired the first shot in this beef. It was Ben Johnson. Let's be honest.
At his introductory press conference.
Introductory press conference. You know, people say, keep your name out of my mouth. He literally name-checked Matt LaFleur on day one and said, not only did he say he enjoyed beating him twice a year, it's the way he said it. Like, if you saw it, he was like, I'm making sure I get this comment through. I'm going to slip this in. It was not subtle. It was very direct.
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Chapter 4: Why is Matt LaFleur considered a top coach despite recent challenges?
Good. I don't want other coaches to like Ben Johnson. I want a winner. That's it. And when it doesn't apply, as of the phrase, if you can't beat them, join them. You want to come hang with us? If you don't like the results of the last, I don't know, 15, 20, name it years, then maybe the Bears are for you. Come to the Bears. If you've got an issue with a lot of people who have...
shape the modern NFL right now, and maybe it's a bit of a click right now, and you want to disrupt the system, the Bears are for you. Come to the Bears. We're seeing that. It's good that the Bears are being disruptive. What happens when a team that suddenly comes up onto the scene is successful? Well, the old guard doesn't like that too much now, do they?
No.
The way baseball fans talk about the Yankees, the way football fans talk about the Patriots, is that not how you want people to talk about teams in Chicago?
Hey, hold on. We've seen it before. The way the Chicago Bulls were viewed in the days of Michael Jordan. Don't forget the Sports Illustrated cover, Are the Bulls So Good They're Bad for the NBA? And it's an illustration of MJ just dangling the rest of the league, smiling.
Those were happier times.
Thank you, 847. Thank you for knowing that that was a riff on come to death row.
I like it all. I'm good with it. Let's be honest. Chicago deserves this. They're a major city. They deserve the hate. If they hate you, that means they respect you. You're right. You're absolutely right.
Yeah. One of my friends once said it's not called show friends. It's show business.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of the beef between Ben Johnson and Matt LaFleur?
We have so much more coming up here on Rahimi Harrison-Grody on 670 The Score. I want to remind you, Ben Johnson speaks today at Hallis Hall. That is coming up in a few minutes, so we will play back Ben Johnson's audio for you. And coming up next, there's a guy who was on to this before anybody else was now, wasn't he? Let's talk to Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio next.