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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

Transition: How easy or difficult is it to fix the Bears' slow starts?

06 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the challenges with the Bears' slow starts?

1.685 - 14.007 Leila Rahimi

Three TVs in there. One TV is always like on Fox Sports or something like that. Colin Calhart, I think is his name. Yeah. So he does his sports every day. Colin Calhart. Yeah. Calhart. I'm sorry. I don't mean to butcher his name. My bad.

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14.965 - 34.377 Marshall Harris

Ah, something tells me we'll use that from time to time. That was Kevin Byard on the Bussin' with the Boys podcast. Thanks to everybody who helped out with the show. Ray Diaz, Tyler Buterbaugh, Tyler Ferengul, as I understand, helped cut up our Bears audio. So go Tyler Ferengul. Thanks to Alex Kuhn because he's standing in there. Ryan Portu is also standing there.

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34.417 - 37.723 Marshall Harris

Everybody gets a thank you today. Thanks to Connor O'Donnell.

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37.743 - 38.644 Mark Grote

With some great stand-in.

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38.624 - 42.993 Marshall Harris

Yes, Jacob Stutz and Max Curtis, always working for us.

43.073 - 44.636 Mark Grote

Y'all mind if I stand here?

44.816 - 49.486 Marshall Harris

You can stand in there all you want, Ryan. Ain't going to make your tight ends any better anytime soon.

49.506 - 55.558 Matt Spiegel

Y'all expecting both of the Mats to be working in Nashville next year? That's my dream.

55.578 - 57.662 Marshall Harris

They're going to have a partnership.

Chapter 2: How does coaching impact a team's performance early in games?

121.658 - 123.14 Unknown

Or easier than we thought?

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123.22 - 126.105 Laurence Holmes

Not insurmountable, I think, is what he's saying.

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126.165 - 130.191 Matt Spiegel

It can be overcome. What was he thinking would be the way to fix it? Third down.

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130.171 - 151.121 Marshall Harris

He thinks that he's trying, and it's visible. You can understand why Caleb Williams is like, I'm going to get this third down the way I know how with my legs. That makes perfect sense. I understand it completely. And he thinks that Ben Johnson's play calling has indicated, no. You need to stay in the pocket a little bit more and throw this to get out of this third down situation.

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151.141 - 166 Laurence Holmes

It is odd to think that he would struggle on third downs because, again, maybe this is just me projecting, like, there's a sense of urgency right there on third and fourth downs, obviously. And if we're all to believe that he has this thing that clicks that becomes icy and urgent in the fourth quarter, why not?

166.452 - 182.622 Marshall Harris

down too i think well if it's third down early it's probably just because your thought process is to move the chains and if it's if it's late he's probably thinking get as many yards per play as you can because the clock if that's the case it's situational there was an early third down that's what you want in your quarterback

182.602 - 196.103 Mark Grote

The second third down of the game on Sunday was a third and nine, and Caleb audibled to a Kyle Menungai screen on the right side, and there was nothing there. He dirted it, because Darnell Wright was kind of already downfield. It was probably going to be a penalty.

196.464 - 205.538 Mark Grote

But that was one of those times, Lawrence, that I thought it was like where the Lions were running something different than what they expected. And that's more on Nagy than it is on Caleb.

205.518 - 213.496 Unknown

But that goes back to the six mental errors in the first 11 plays.

Chapter 3: What insights did Tim Jenkins provide about Caleb Williams?

311.734 - 313.518 Unknown

But you'd have to call run plays to do it.

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313.598 - 316.323 Marshall Harris

On the right side.

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316.343 - 318.448 Laurence Holmes

We know the Bears are capable of calling run plays.

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318.528 - 325.502 Mark Grote

307 yards they gave up to the Ravens. 307. Is that a lot? That is a lot. Feels like a lot. Then they didn't play nobody in the next week.

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325.482 - 340.975 Laurence Holmes

I like that idea. And if we're going to be a little bit critical of Caleb here, right now he's still getting like two balls per game, it feels like, getting tipped. That second quarter sequence, 6-0 Detroit, Caleb fires it down the middle, the ball gets tipped, and then the next play he gets sacked by Andrew Hutchinson.

341.376 - 345.364 Laurence Holmes

I mean, I haven't been able to quite figure that out, but it is something that he's still got to tighten up.

345.344 - 364.315 Mark Grote

I'll give you one more on Caleb. It's a play that somehow didn't get mentioned on our show yesterday. After they get the ball, and it's what, two minutes, 11 seconds, and you're like, they're going to go down and win this damn thing. The first play was a bullet of a slant to Luther Burden that Burden bobbled. And now, yeah, Burden should catch it.

364.295 - 366.74 Matt Spiegel

Throw it at 88 miles per hour instead of 92.

366.78 - 379.587 Mark Grote

Throw it a little softer. And it's a first down play. And then the second down is the grounding and it's third and 20. Yeah, he had to reach for a bullet. And I'm like, man, if Caleb just used a little touch right there, then you're off and running.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of mental errors on game performance?

456.062 - 457.323 Mark Grote

Our guy Dave Wanstead.

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457.443 - 459.065 Marshall Harris

Yep, uh-huh, uh-huh.

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459.085 - 476.866 Mark Grote

Wani was great this morning with Mully and Hawes. He always is. And I like afternoon Wani very much, but morning Wani is also delightful. And he said that he believed all the players heard Ben's message really clearly. Groats, would you agree you hear that? Like, so many different players said, yeah, that was bad. That was not good.

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476.906 - 480.33 Mark Grote

And, like, everybody was completely on board with Ben being pissed off.

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480.31 - 495.302 Laurence Holmes

Yeah, no doubt. I mean, good coaches get their players to echo the things that they're saying. And one thing we know about Ben, while he's not always completely transparent with us, he is much more transparent than the average coach, or at least the ones that we have seen here in the very near past.

495.322 - 499.551 Marshall Harris

Y'all think Tennessee's ready to understand that personnel equals scheme?

499.571 - 523.986 Laurence Holmes

Oh, my goodness. Hey, the Matt Nagy thing is very potentially real in Tennessee because of some of the connections there. Borgonzi, you can say it. Borgonzi, that is right. Borgonzi. I'm all for Matt Nagy getting another chance. I mean, there were some serious flaws, but if he really thinks he's clean, if he's really going to have non-yes men this time around. That's real good.

523.966 - 531.966 Laurence Holmes

and maybe hand the ball off to, well, not necessarily Jordan Howard, but somebody in his next chance, then he could be a good head coach because he is a good communicator.

531.986 - 549.378 Mark Grote

What offense is he going to run? What do you mean? He's going to run the Andy Reid stuff, right? He's going to run the Andy Reid stuff and try to shove it down the throat of a quarterback he did not draft one year into his career. Does that sound familiar?

Chapter 5: How does play calling affect quarterback performance?

615.488 - 634.896 Unknown

People say a lot of things when they're trying to get the job. Manage the clock. And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking if I had an NFL team that I own, which I don't, I would not hire Matt Nagy. Why am I hiring Matt Nagy as CEO? There are other people that I could hire to do this that I feel like are more qualified to do this.

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634.916 - 642.686 Marshall Harris

And to that end, what was the talent evaluation and the personnel fit when he was in charge of it that said this is working?

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643.167 - 644.809 Matt Spiegel

Yeah, well. Let me offer you guys.

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644.829 - 646.892 Marshall Harris

I think Dalton is the example here.

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647.032 - 659.933 Matt Spiegel

Let me offer you a scenario and see if it makes it a little bit more palatable to hire Matt Nagy. Matt Nagy comes in as your head coach and hires Eric Biennemi as his offensive coordinator. Do you feel better about it?

659.953 - 664.261 Unknown

No, because then I don't know what Eric Biennemi does as far as calling plays.

664.842 - 668.65 Marshall Harris

Eric Biennemi is going to want to run the football, and that is not something that he likes to do.

668.81 - 675.3 Mark Grote

He's going to want to run the team, too. But that'll be good influence. It's an interesting thing. Theoretical of good influence.

675.32 - 684.91 Unknown

Can I present an alternative here? Sure. Don't hire him. Guess what? Matt Nagy is up for your head coaching job. Also, Cliff Kingsbury is now up for your head coaching job. Tell me why you wouldn't take Kingsbury over Nagy.

Chapter 6: What role does offensive line play in a quarterback's success?

777.026 - 788.06 Matt Spiegel

You don't even really know if Matt Nagy, what you have for him as a play caller is what happened with the Bears, where he gave away play calling twice.

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788.2 - 792.265 Marshall Harris

And he took it back, and that's when they weren't as good this last time with Lazer.

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792.245 - 806.423 Matt Spiegel

So your point about what does he do, what's your expertise? Because the expertise isn't you calling plays. And one could make an argument that his handling of the Cody Parkey thing was

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806.504 - 833.338 Mark Grote

was ridiculous oh yeah and he talks about all those things he learned alan robinson with quotes in that piece right groats about about like you know naggy started asking for help and asking for suggestions like he was a very bad ceo so now you're going to bank on him being a better ceo when he's not even your offensive guru how did he get better now maybe he got better because like in the piece like he and andy have been really talking about it he's been following but

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833.318 - 854.811 Matt Spiegel

When you are only allowing yourself to be in one school, like one school of thought, and you've already tried with that one school of thought and not succeeded, I am less likely to give you an opportunity to try it again. I wanted Matt Nagy to go do a walkabout. I understand why he didn't.

855.271 - 867.872 Matt Spiegel

If I had the opportunity to go work with Patrick Mahomes, if I was thrown a lifesaver from Andy Reid to come back and win a championship, I'm probably doing that too. But it doesn't mean that he's all cherry all the time.

867.992 - 874.462 Mark Grote

Oh, thank you. How about butter rum? Butter rum? They still make the butter rum? Orange whip? Orange whip? I don't know if they still make the butter rum.

874.482 - 877.467 Unknown

Should he have gone and seen your guy in Tuscaloosa back at the time?

877.683 - 885.117 Matt Spiegel

I mean, that seems to be a way to learn some stuff. If you look at the Saban tree, it's doing actually pretty well.

Chapter 7: How can the Bears improve their offensive strategies?

977.971 - 984.244 Marshall Harris

Now, am I mindful of how famously the Cowboys lost to the Packers in the playoffs under his stead, for example? Yes, absolutely.

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984.545 - 985.788 Mark Grote

Oh, yeah, Jordan Love on the road.

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986.108 - 990.658 Marshall Harris

Exactly. And they rattled up 40-plus points on them pretty easily.

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990.718 - 993.043 Laurence Holmes

Full circle, Porth. He wants McCarthy.

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993.023 - 993.584 Marshall Harris

He does?

993.624 - 998.35 Laurence Holmes

Yeah, that's what he said. Y'all talking about Mike McCarthy.

998.37 - 1004.318 Marshall Harris

But that's the point here. Once you narrow it down and you talk about it, that deserves discussion.

1004.338 - 1018.32 Mark Grote

Do you think this is appropriate? Ryan Porth showed up for a little pre-meeting meeting that we had. Pre-meeting? Yeah, he was wearing overalls with a big piece of straw sticking out of his mouth. Is that appropriate? Did he have a hat on? Did he have a matching hat? He did. And he had Lawrence's pitchfork from his shed.

1018.34 - 1021.947 Marshall Harris

And then you walked into his office where there was a hay bale instead of a desk.

Chapter 8: What are the future prospects for Matt Nagy and the Bears?

1086.501 - 1089.186 Mark Grote

Where does the trident end and a pitchfork begin?

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1089.206 - 1091.55 Marshall Harris

The trident is for the sea. It's for harpooning.

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1091.971 - 1094.035 Laurence Holmes

How does the rototiller fit into that? Marine.

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1094.295 - 1097.04 Marshall Harris

Rototiller is used? Sea.

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1097.08 - 1127.214 Matt Spiegel

You guys all need to leave. They need to leave, Lawrence. That Sparky, the mascot from ASU, is supposedly based off of Walt Disney? I like it. The story about it is that there was an animator who worked for Walt Disney, and he hated him. And so he was asked to come up with Sparky, and go look at the side-by-side between Sparky and Walt Disney. Are you serious? Yes.

1127.254 - 1135.892 Matt Spiegel

That's the long-rumored origin of Sparky. I love that. is that it is a shot at Walt Disney.

1136.132 - 1138.298 Laurence Holmes

It's like Lorne Michaels is Dr. Evil.

1138.719 - 1140.785 Marshall Harris

Yes. Oh, that's so good. So good.

1140.945 - 1142.75 Matt Spiegel

It's true, though, the way he talks, for sure.

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