Transition with Matt Spiegel

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What are the initial thoughts on the Cubs and their management?

Vinny Rotino 0:01
Good, better, best. Santa never rests. To everybody who said Jay Cutler needs to be in the movie, especially because he's from Santa Claus, Indiana. You are correct. I like our group think on this. Thanks to Ray Diaz, Tyler Beterbaugh, Brandon Fryer, Cody Westerlin, Connor O'Donnell. Max Curtis and Jacob Stutz. Thanks also to Vinnie Duber, Brooke Fletcher, and Corey Taliba, our guests today. Our transition is brought to you by Torque Coatings, high-performance coatings for your home or business. TorqueCoatings.com. It is Matt Spiegel and Gabe Ramirez later today.
Matt Spiegel 0:38
Gabe Ramirez. Gabe Ramirez will be here, yes, as we get rolling. We are in the Nico Horner Formation Acceptance Craig Council. Concerned. We have... We have the Cubs manager, Craig Council, at 2.30, so transition will be a little shorter, and Gabe will be with me about 2.15. I'm a little concerned about that conversation.
Marshall Harris 0:57
About the conversation with Craig? Yeah, just because of the way it usually goes. I've listened to all the conversations you have had with him, and you know how you get to that space with him, and then Lawrence is there to be kind of a buffer. I don't know if Gabe is... I don't know what that's going to be like. So I'm interested.
Matt Spiegel 1:12
I'm very intrigued by the conversation. There's a life of its own of talking about the conversations. I like it. Yes, there is. I hate it. Why? Because just let it be what it is. Can we just all relax and let it be what it is? Craig's crusty. He likes giving people crap. He likes giving Bruce crap. When Bruce is not around, he looks for the next person to give crap to. You'll be the next person? I lived this in Mesa in March when I was there. I was there on a Saturday morning, and Bruce wasn't there because he was doing ITC inside the clubhouse.

How does the conversation shift to Craig Council's management style?

Matt Spiegel 1:48
And Craig looked around, and he started giving me crap. And I was like, oh, man, what an honor. So when he gives me crap, I love it, man. It's a badge of honor? well and that's that's what that's baseball people yeah right yeah like that's a love language for baseball people i mean not everybody's ian happer nico horner no and just puts up with us yes no and wants to really play like a thoughtful erudite game most people most baseball people are like you guys don't know jack what are you doing here why are you talking to me all right fine i'll tell you host that show i don't know jack though What did he know about Dansby Swanson that we didn't know? Because remember, Craig said, look, we're working on some stuff.
Vinny Rotino 2:26
Thank you.
Matt Spiegel 2:28
And he said, we're working on some stuff. And we think the best place for him to facilitate that is in the lineup. And everybody in Chicago was like, you're a dumbass. Including me. You're a dumbass. Bench him. Let's go. And Craig's like, no. And now here we are. He should spike the ball on Dansby Swanson.
Marshall Harris 2:46
No. I always keep Dansby Swanson alive because he's there for his defense. I put him in the nine hole like a freaking 1980s shortstop.
Matt Spiegel 2:53
That's where he is. And that's fine. I was defensive replacement Dansby Swanson.
Vinny Rotino 2:57
And I had gotten there. We are all part of the fabric that perturbs Craig Council. Like, he knows what he's signed up for. And we know what we signed up for, too. So I don't necessarily mind it. Exactly. Let the man be perturbed. That's his gig. He is the driest of dry martini. So if that's the case, okay. But I'm going to spend a lot of it laughing. Or just, like, I'll lean into the absurd. You know, like, I have a list of ridiculous questions for Craig Castle just to see what happens.
Matt Spiegel 3:27
Yeah, no, it's funny. I've grown more comfortable with discomfort in my life as I've gotten older. Okay, Ben Johnson coached. I mean, seriously. And conversationally, like, come on, man. Radio conversations need that.
Marshall Harris 3:41
Isn't that just you being comfortable in your own skin?
Matt Spiegel 3:43
Probably.
Marshall Harris 3:43
As age goes, like, you live it long enough. You go through enough bad experiences. Like, oh, this wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be when it's not the optimal result.
Matt Spiegel 3:51
Absolutely. And it's also like, hey, this is me. You like me? Go for it. You don't like me?

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