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Rahimi, Harris & Grote Show

What does Ben Johnson think of Caleb Williams' 'Iceman' trademark pursuit?

01 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What does Ben Johnson think about Caleb Williams' trademark pursuit?

0.385 - 29.447 Marshall Harris

It's been a long off season in terms of you go downtown or you go somewhere and everyone's patting you on the back and telling you what a great job you did. You don't want to hear it. You don't want to hear it anymore. It was great for the first week, but now our sights are turned and we've got a monumental task at hand because this division only got better.

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30.187 - 42.251 Ben Johnson

Bears head coach Ben Johnson has essentially been saying some form of that since the Rams loss. He warned everybody, put this season away. It doesn't matter anymore.

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Chapter 2: How does Ben Johnson view entitlement in the upcoming season?

42.291 - 73.37 Ben Johnson

He's used words like there's no entitlement going into next year. We welcome you back into Rahimi Harrison-Grody here on 104.3 The Score. That said, Marshall. There is no way that Ben Johnson could be pleased or interested in or giving the thumbs up to Caleb Williams and his want to copyright, to trademark the nickname The Iceman. And this is all fun and silly, and we'll get into it.

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Chapter 3: What are Ben Johnson's expectations for his players this year?

74.731 - 84.194 Ben Johnson

And I don't think Ben Johnson is going to say something to Caleb, but it can't sit well with him if we are going to go down this path of forget what happened last year.

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84.214 - 111.106 Mark Grote

I think of all the ways you described it. Ben Johnson has no interest in it is probably the most spot on undeniable fact based on the way that Ben Johnson has talked to us about a myriad of things since becoming the Bears head coach and what he expects from his players and what is important to him. He absolutely does not care about Caleb Williams' pursuit of of the Iceman trademark.

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111.447 - 124.662 Mark Grote

He's like, we have real problems on this offense right now, Caleb, that you need to be focused on. But at the same time, I think he understands it is a business and Caleb Williams is a business, comma, man.

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Chapter 4: Why might Ben Johnson disapprove of the 'Iceman' trademark?

125.303 - 136.767 Ben Johnson

I don't want to hear it. Grown men fighting over a nickname is... I'm the Iceman. No, I'm the Iceman. I'm the boss. No, I'm the boss. I'm the Big Aristotle.

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136.887 - 138.61 Unknown

No, I'm the Big Aristotle.

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139.371 - 140.573 Ben Johnson

It's hilarious to me.

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141.013 - 143.938 Unknown

I'm the White Mamba. No, I'm the White Mamba.

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Chapter 5: What did George Gervin say about Caleb Williams' nickname?

144.058 - 158.639 Mark Grote

It is. Okay, the Big Aristotle reminded me of Shaq, and when Shaq was Superman, and then Dwight Howard said he wanted to be Superman, and then Shaq just, from that point on, would just defecate all over... Dwight Howard and his claim to Superman. I'm Superman.

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158.659 - 170.917 Ben Johnson

No, I'm Superman. Was there ever a fight over white Mamba? Because that's hilarious if there was. I'm just thinking of nicknames, and I don't know, Brian Scalabrini. Maybe because I'm white, Brian Scalabrini's name popped in my head.

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170.937 - 174.882 Mark Grote

I feel like that's something that the Lakers fans would try to attribute to Austin Reeves now, right?

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Chapter 6: How does George Gervin's legacy influence the nickname debate?

175.603 - 189.212 Mark Grote

Oh, no doubt, actually, yeah. No, I'm white chocolate. There you go. That's another good one. I'm white chocolate. I'm white chocolate. Or it could just be I'm Jason Williams because there's like four Jason Williams. I'm the sheriff. No, I'm the sheriff. That was Peyton Manning, by the way.

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Chapter 7: What are the implications of trademarking sports nicknames?

189.232 - 195.463 Mark Grote

I'm just the deputy. I'm just the deputy. Not like Barney Fife deputy, but like a deputy.

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195.443 - 214.904 Ben Johnson

We're going to play this in a second, because there was a hilarious nickname that was formed last night in the White Sox game that I'm going to get to here in a second. But first, I can't get enough of this little blurb from Sun Times. I believe it was our guy Patrick Finley. Finley having a good day on this show, reading his tweets earlier today. during Florio. This was George Girvin.

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215.245 - 217.367 Ben Johnson

The tone of this is just beautiful.

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Chapter 8: What humorous nickname discussions arise during the episode?

217.687 - 237.627 Ben Johnson

From George Girvin, kids, who was the original Iceman. George Girvin, known as a San Antonio Spur. I know he played in the ABA as well. He actually played with the Bulls. The man played with Michael Jordan. Some people of certain ages remember George Girvin. He wasn't a big Bulls factor by then. It was late in his career, but he was a Chicago Bull for the record.

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237.887 - 262.963 Ben Johnson

Here is what George Girvin told the Chicago Sun-Times. Quote, I've got nothing but respect for Williams, Girvin told the Sun-Times on Wednesday. He's already proved greatness, and his potential upside is great, like an Iceman. But, says Girvin, that name is taken. All I'm saying is, young fella, we've already got one Iceman.

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262.943 - 278.961 Mark Grote

And what I want people to understand, because I think people know George Gervin as the Iceman of a certain age, but some people who are younger might just know, like, oh, the Iceman George Gervin, but not know, like, the credentials. Sure. Understand that this guy is not just a Hall of Famer.

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279.194 - 298.823 Mark Grote

Not just a guy who was first team All-NBA five straight seasons, seven times if you can count his second team All-NBAs, but he led the league in scoring four times over a five-year period, including averaging 33.1 points per game as a member of the Spurs back in 1979-80 season.

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299.143 - 306.755 Ben Johnson

He is a legend in his own right. He was a terrific NBA old-school big man. Right? Didn't he have the fingertip roll?

307.016 - 311.165 Mark Grote

He wasn't a big man. He was a shooting guard in a small forward.

311.205 - 312.728 Ben Johnson

Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I had him.

312.748 - 316.597 Mark Grote

He's 6'7", so he's big for that position, but he was just extra smooth with that finger roll.

316.737 - 317.779 Ben Johnson

Icy, I would say.

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