He Committed Treason to Get Rich // The Jonathan Toebbe Story
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Who is Jonathan Toebbe and what motivated him to betray the U.S.?
So how much does this guy hate the president? Well, enough to be put in prison over it. So the guy's name is Jonathan. And Jonathan's about 38 when this story starts. And he's living in Annapolis, Maryland. And Jonathan, he's just like a normal guy. He's living his life and all that. But then in 2016, the worst thing happens to him. Donald Trump gets elected president. And this really pisses Jonathan off. I mean, he thinks Trump's a turd who will probably someday end up getting us into a war that we can't get out of. I don't know. Something like that. And he just loses faith in America and its political system. And he's convinced that the country is heading in the wrong direction. So one day in 2018, he comes up with a terrible idea.
How did Jonathan's political views after 2016 influence his decision to sell secrets?
He's going to steal state secrets and sell them to a foreign country. That way he can ultimately get some money and then afford to flee this country that he's learned to hate so much and go live somewhere else and never have to work again. All he needs to do this is sell enough state secrets to make about $5 million. So how's he gonna get this top secret information that he plans to sell? Well, Jonathan just happens to work as a Navy nuclear engineer. And his job involves helping design and maintain nuclear reactors used in nuclear submarines. Which means that he has special security clearance. So he goes to his wife and he tells her his plan to sell state secrets. And his wife is this woman, Diana.
And instead of talking him out of it, I guess Diana's like, sweet, I'm in! Or whatever. So together, they start discussing who could potentially buy this information from them. Like which foreign governments would be interested. Now, the immediate choices would be countries like China or Russia. But both Jonathan and Diana feel that selling state secrets to America's rivals would be morally wrong. I mean, they don't want anyone to get killed or anything. They just want to make some money and, you know, be able to leave the country. So they decide to look for a friendlier government to sell to. And after conducting lots of research, they eventually conclude that the best country to sell to would be Brazil.
Because the information Jonathan has access to is about nuclear submarine technology, and Brazil has spent years trying to develop its own nuclear submarine program. So it's a perfect match. So around 2018, Jonathan gets to work on carrying out this plan. He begins secretly gathering tons of pages of classified information, but he has to do this little by little. Downloading a few pages here, a few pages there, so that he doesn't trigger any internal network alarms by downloading like a huge file. So about two years pass, and it's now 2020, and he's got thousands of pages worth of top secret info at this point. So now all he's got to do is get it to the Brazilian government. Problem is, he's not that connected of a guy.
Like he doesn't have a personal contact or a secret inside connection with anyone running Brazil. So he types up an anonymous letter and he packages it with a physical sample of classified US Navy operational manuals. Then he goes and he drops the package off the mail. And he mails it to the Brazilian government spy agency, the ABIN, which is kind of like the Brazilian CIA. So the ABIN gets this package, and they're like, oh shit, this US Navy guy is trying to sell us state secrets. Meanwhile, back in the US, Jonathan waits for a reply. And he waits. And he waits. And about eight months pass, and he still hasn't gotten a response. But then one day he finally gets an email from the ABIN because in his letter he had instructed them on how to contact him via an encrypted email.
And so this email is like, I'm from the ABIN and we are very interested in what you have to offer. And Jonathan replies back, cool, got any proof? And he tells them that over Memorial Day weekend, they need to place a specific physical sign in the window of the Brazilian embassy in Washington, D.C. And the ABIN agrees to do this. So over Memorial Day weekend, Jonathan drives through D.C.
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