Leafs Hour: Matthew Knies for Who?!

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Why are the Maple Leafs considering trading Matthew Knies for Kirill Marchenko?

Nick Kypreos 0:10
All right, you know we're back. To form when Sammy just sneaks in, a jersey changed. Under the wire at four PM Eastern. Just like getting a big trade done under the wire. You know forget your We are live and in color. It's the real Kipper and Bourne Show back. On our s four to six Eastern time. It is the Leaf Hour edition. That we start this show off and I'm not sure if we could have picked maybe a better time to go into our leaf hour edition with so much talk. About a pending trade with the Columbus Blue Jackets and the Toronto Maple Leafs. Around uh The names Marchenko and Matthew Nyes. Now we've ha we've been on this thing, this Matthew Nyes thing from Last March with what was deemed uh a potential trade with the Montreal Canadians, only to be shifted to
Nick Kypreos 1:09
Dallas and Columbus and Then you had the off season. I did my first trade board. Told everybody. The noise won't go away and How surprised are you this early that we are into this Matthew Nyes and the real The realism of him no longer being a tronomy belief.
Justin Bourne 1:37
Yeah, I'm surprised. I mean, he uh you've been telling us since as you mentioned March that this is a possibility. We've heard it from All sorts of different sources and all sorts of different packages. So you knew the name was out there. Uh couldn't make sense of a lot of it for a lot of time. But I'll be honest, after the past couple of years where the management has been, you know, a lot of tire kicking in on a lot of people, but things didn't happen. To see something just kinda happen.
Nick Kypreos 2:04
That's that's probably that gray area, Sammy, where it was like, okay, the perception a a lot of people thought was tire kicking. Yeah. And it no, no, today proves Even from tree living John Taca, who was scheduled to be on our show and has More important things to do right think right now.
Sam McKee 2:25
Yeah, uh from a production standpoint, like it's just us boys. It
Nick Kypreos 2:28
was never it was never tire kicking. It was with tree. With both of 'em. It was never tire kicking. It was like we've got this major asset. There are zero restrictions on 'em. And we're gonna find what we deem the perfect trade.
Justin Bourne 2:44
So How much of this was about Matthew Nyes? And we're gonna get to the other side of it, but Matthew Nyes and the player, we don't think he's gonna be better than he is now. He's hit a ceiling, maybe he's unhappy here. How much of it was about Nyes and how much was it He's the only good piece we have that can help us change the DNA of our team.
Nick Kypreos 3:04
I I think it's all of the above. Okay. Yeah. And I don't I don't I don't know where that percentage lies, fifty fifty, sixty forty, seventy thirty, but it all factors in that Whatever they thought that Matthew Nyes was gonna be once upon a time. They they don't have that same vision. А ва винвеню think on the surface. Where you've got Marchenko and Nice. We all agree that they are power forwards. That can play the game differently because they're so big and so strong. So why wouldn't I wanna keep the younger one at four years and will end up being Five, six or seven million dollars cheaper moving forward.
Justin Bourne 3:55
Well I think it's a matter of What do you think Marchenko can be and is? Yes. What do you think Nice can be and is? And if you believe that Nyes is what he is going to be, this is kind of what it is. I think Marchenko is different. And something the Leafs have lacked is speed. And this Marchenko flies through the ice. I mean, he carries the puck up the rink. He's a top percentile skater in the NHL. What percent what percentile? Ninety-third skating percentile, ninety-eighth skating distance. People will like that. The distance thing to me shows that he is moving around out there and creating space. And I think with Matthews, he has a chance to have a higher offensive output than I'd.
Nick Kypreos 4:33
All right, Sammy, where are you on all of this?
Sam McKee 4:35
I I think maybe go back to the tire kicking situation that after a couple of years of hearing these big names and hearing all this stuff bandied about, and you know. You writing about it on your trade board on sportshet.ca and having the leafs connected to somebody and all this stuff, maybe I was just sort of conditioned to the fact that this isn't gonna happen, that this is gonna be a situation where you're like, Well, their names in there, but it's not gonna happen.

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