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Real Kyper & Bourne

Leafs Hour: Matthews and Berube Speak on Their Futures

16 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

9.667 - 19.099 Nick Kypreos

You're a little wet out there, maybe. See how much rain's coming down right now, Sammy? Is this good for the golf courses? I didn't even... Yeah, it's raining out there.

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19.439 - 24.725 Sam McKee

I do mornings as a dad. Do not send my kids equipped. My son's walking home in that right now. Good luck, son.

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26.588 - 32.074 Justin Bourne

Welcome to the program. He's the meme of walking uphill both ways and pouring rain. Good luck, son.

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32.515 - 33.596 Nick Kypreos

Oh, I left an oiler jersey.

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33.676 - 34.598 Justin Bourne

I left an oiler jersey.

34.678 - 63.576 Nick Kypreos

Crap! It's the Real Kipper and Bourne Show. Sammy leaves... An Edmonton Oilers jersey up in our Leaf edition hour of our program. We're live on Sportsnet 360. Soon to be Sportsnet 590. The fan as they will join us in progress where the Toronto Blue Jays just lost Sammy. What is going on there? Hold on, hold on, hold on. But you can always streamline us on Sportsnet Plus.

64.118 - 75.07 Nick Kypreos

Also available Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. Before we get into clean up for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Sammy, what is going on with the Jays?

75.591 - 92.371 Justin Bourne

I don't know. This is the fifth straight series they've lost. It's a real slog right now, boys, and it feels like the season's teetering a little bit. I know it's early, but they can't hit. They have no real hitters in their lineup. They're meek. They're feeble, boys.

92.411 - 96.416 Nick Kypreos

What is going on with my buddy Locomotive there?

Chapter 2: What insights did Craig Berube share about his future with the Leafs?

694.422 - 711.102 Justin Bourne

Scheduling it. The next morning... So you would have liked to have more time. Well, like, just make me... Give me the illusion that you're putting some time and thought into this. That you're like, hey, maybe we're going to look... Maybe I shouldn't even say this because I hate it. But look yourself in the mirror.

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711.122 - 721.715 Justin Bourne

Maybe you're going to be like, hey, we'll take some time to think about what you potentially could say to us. As opposed to getting off a flight, going to there and be like... Got through that. Now it's time to go do something else.

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721.735 - 745.639 Nick Kypreos

But I have talked to you guys in the past in terms of how an organization should work from your head coach, your players, your PR department, and prepping for something like that, and being a little clear on your message before, and having purpose when there's a microphone in front of you.

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745.889 - 749.554 Sam McKee

Matthews came in with that today. He clearly had some coaching.

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749.694 - 751.036 Nick Kypreos

All right. Yeah.

751.296 - 752.778 Sam McKee

He came in with a prepared statement.

753.7 - 758.807 Nick Kypreos

You guys want to get into it? It's better than I can't think of anything right now. Yeah. Right?

759.167 - 759.968 Justin Bourne

Okay. How about this one?

760.008 - 762.972 Nick Kypreos

No, no. Let's stay on Craig Berube. I don't want to bounce back and forth.

Chapter 3: How does Auston Matthews view his role and future with the team?

2323.086 - 2325.39 Nick Kypreos

Nobody's saying give up. Nobody's saying give up.

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2325.41 - 2333.052 Justin Bourne

That's what, that's what rebuild is. Give up on it. Trade them all away for picks and futures and lottery tickets and just start over.

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2333.072 - 2364.525 Nick Kypreos

It's also being a little realistic. And, you know, you got to... Sam... If you're wrong on that, it should have been bigger of a rebuild. Then all you're doing is just kicking your problems down the road for more years. And that's how Detroit, that's how Buffalo turned missing the playoffs from one year to three years to five years to seven years to 10 years. That's what you want to avoid.

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2365.754 - 2372.65 Sam McKee

Or you can go scorched earth like the Blackhawks and finish 7th, 8th, 8th, 8th, and 8th. Every year.

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2373.812 - 2397.702 Justin Bourne

Buffalo had first overall pick and they had Eichel. It took a lot of time. Well, yeah, but that's a lot about organizational mistakes and trading away the wrong guys and pissing people off and all that stuff. Just trade Matthews, trade Willie in this offseason. Get the Byfield package. Get the Brant Clark package. Get some D-man from Anaheim. Lose 50 games next year, and everybody will be happy.

2398.07 - 2412.116 Justin Bourne

and Matthew scores 50 goals and is a Selkie winner, and William Nylander's lighting it up, and we're all like, God, how do you get players like that? Like, do it. And see what the fan base feels like. I know they suck, but, like, this year. It's funny that Marner's not been more of a lesson.

2412.636 - 2422.549 Nick Kypreos

You miss him, huh? What you don't want to do is just... go through this again next year. Right. With, with, with those guys, with those guys.

2422.589 - 2435.568 Sam McKee

Yeah. And that's the thing. If you're going through this, then it totally opens everyone up. Okay. You're going to have a Matthews still get a lot of value here. Like that's when you're like, all right, then maybe it's time, but it ain't time yet. We should break.

2435.589 - 2438.573 Nick Kypreos

Okay. Let's go to break. Still got a few more clips, Sammy.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Leafs' GM search?

2962.004 - 2965.849 Sam McKee

93 minutes? Yeah. That's how long we just went on Austin.

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2965.981 - 2970.565 Nick Kypreos

We got tomorrow. I mean, Leaf Edition Hour is sticking around, isn't it, Sammy? Oh, I think so.

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2971.006 - 2973.468 Sam McKee

Guys, we got another month of Leaf Edition Hour.

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2973.688 - 3002.248 Nick Kypreos

Wow. All right. But we get to go national next. Gary Gowley, former National Hockey League color analyst for Sportsnet, Hockey Night in Canada. Let's start teeing it up, boys. Stanley Cup playoffs this weekend. Sammy, returning in you... into a Montreal Canadian fan. We are. We are. More when we return. Real Kipper and Bourne Show.

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