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Real Kyper & Bourne

Outlining Leafs' Next Steps with John Chayka & Mats Sundin

04 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What did the hosts think about the Montreal Canadiens' Game 7 victory?

5.718 - 24.826 Nick Kypreos

Welcome to the National Hour of the Real Kipper and Boren Show. Nick Kiprios, Justin Boren, Sammy McKee. We are live on Sportsnet, Sportsnet 650 in Vancouver, 960 in Calgary, and streaming always on Sportsnet+. If you can't catch us live, there's always Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube, where we appreciate a thumbs up.

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26.628 - 32.878 Nick Kypreos

In about 15 minutes, we're going to welcome the 19th general manager in Toronto Maple Leaf history, John Chayka.

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34.203 - 43.619 Nick Kypreos

Matt Sundin, now the official senior executive advisor to your Toronto Maple Leafs, Sammy. You still got his jersey?

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44.32 - 45.221 Justin Bourne

I had two or three, yeah.

45.522 - 46.143 Nick Kypreos

Two or three?

Chapter 2: How did John Chayka and Mats Sundin feel about their new roles with the Leafs?

46.163 - 54.136 Justin Bourne

Yeah. Had him in here on his book tour about a year ago. Wow. My, how things have changed. A little different tone now.

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54.156 - 57.882 Nick Kypreos

This hour of Real Kipper and Bourne brought to you by Bet365.

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58.705 - 64.582 Sam McKee

Any other messages? No, we're good for now. Text? You want to do text?

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Chapter 3: What insights did Chayka share about the hiring process and team vision?

64.883 - 67.45 Sam McKee

No. I put that in the lineup, though. Yeah, you did. Yeah, don't do that.

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68.628 - 70.47 Nick Kypreos

That's who I asked.

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70.871 - 71.151 Sam McKee

I don't know.

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71.171 - 77.159 Nick Kypreos

Did you see the big bubble with a question mark above my head when I'm like, am I supposed to mention text? You're Ron Burgundy.

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77.239 - 78.942 Sam McKee

If I put it in there, you read it. I love that.

Chapter 4: What is Mats Sundin's perspective on team culture and player dynamics?

78.962 - 100.032 Sam McKee

This is so true. I should test that one day. I don't want to test that. So we're kind of on notice here. I'm texting with our boss, Ryan Fabro, who's going to bring in the president and the general manager and Sundean. And then we're going to hit a break. So we're just kind of on, we're on their time right here, but I guess we should sneak in some Habs talk.

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100.052 - 110.813 Nick Kypreos

Well, listen, I mean, Matt and John don't want to hear about Montreal doing so well. Neither do you, but I don't care either. I don't care.

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Chapter 5: How do Chayka and Sundin plan to approach the Leafs' roster decisions?

110.853 - 112.736 Nick Kypreos

They're the only Canadian team left.

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112.756 - 115.181 Sam McKee

Oh, you want to, you want to like be the, you want to talk about Habs.

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115.201 - 116.183 Justin Bourne

You want to be like the Habs show.

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116.463 - 117.906 Nick Kypreos

I do want to talk about the Habs.

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117.886 - 132.908 Justin Bourne

I know people are upset out there. Chris Hadfield, our astronaut, tweeted positively about them, and that bothered people. That bothers me. I know, yeah. It's like if you've been Leafs guy and you say anything positive about the Habs, people get upset. But, hey, this Habs team, boys, they are something else.

Chapter 6: What challenges do the new management face in building a Stanley Cup contender?

133.148 - 136.152 Justin Bourne

Now, they weren't something else last night. They got filled in.

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138.275 - 140.839 Nick Kypreos

Did you give them a chance to go down there and win?

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141.106 - 153.957 Justin Bourne

Oh, absolutely. They won there twice already in the series. I thought for sure they'd have a chance. I didn't think that they would get their butts handed to them the way they did, but Dobish was awesome. They got a couple of bounces, like bounces.

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154.358 - 154.919 Nick Kypreos

So good.

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155.16 - 155.861 Sam McKee

Very good.

Chapter 7: How will analytics influence Chayka's decisions as GM?

155.881 - 160.752 Sam McKee

And I'm surprised how good he is. Yeah. There's moments I watched him this year where he was scattery.

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160.792 - 173.556 Nick Kypreos

I gave Tampa a chance if Vasilevsky could still do what he did in game six. And he was really good. And look at the game-winning goal, right?

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173.596 - 176.862 Justin Bourne

Yeah. Smacked in backhanded from behind the goal line.

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176.882 - 178.285 Nick Kypreos

That's a hockey god's goal.

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178.265 - 181.049 Justin Bourne

And even the first one was off several items.

Chapter 8: What are the future prospects for Auston Matthews and the Leafs organization?

181.629 - 188.458 Justin Bourne

I mean, new hook to bat that thing out of the air. That's a pretty savvy play. I bet your Valley hates that goal. On Vasilevsky?

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188.478 - 197.59 Sam McKee

Yeah. Not back to his post quick enough? It's not. It's because it's so lucky. It's so lucky. At some point, you can analyze goaltending as much as you want. It went off the end boards, and he smacked it off his butt.

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197.61 - 215.554 Justin Bourne

But, hey, credit to Marty St. Louis. Sorry, do you have a point? You can make the postgame hullabaloo. I'm sure you guys saw him doing the Wolf of Wall Street stuff. I did. Which, okay, that seemed weird to me, but okay. I love that he's like, he made some point of being like, not going to win a lot of games with less than 10 shots, but you won now.

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215.574 - 221.883 Nick Kypreos

What is it, officially, the least amount of goals to win a game seven? Like, what record do they set?

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222.343 - 226.629 Justin Bourne

At least on a shot? I don't know. I don't have a record in mind. Here, I'll look at it right now.

226.649 - 227.15 Nick Kypreos

Right, to win?

227.17 - 230.995 Justin Bourne

Was it a game seven? I know nothing of it.

231.015 - 244.076 Nick Kypreos

I don't know. I'm just, all I know is they had a goose egg. What do you mean? In the second period, did they not? Yeah, they didn't get a shot. Right? Yeah, yeah. How can this be possible? Hockey is absurd. Let me just do a... No, no, no.

244.096 - 246.22 Sam McKee

It is absurd, but... Fewest shots in a playoff win.

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