Chapter 1: What are John Chayka's comments on the Leafs' direction?
Welcome in to Real Kipper and Born. My name is Justin Born. We are joined today, not by Nick Kiprios. We got JD Bunkus in the house. Bunk, thanks for joining. How are you?
Good, good. What an upgrade.
I know. What a massive swing for the show.
Chapter 2: How do Chayka and Sundin plan to work together in the front office?
This is great. We got technical directors Frank Baraska and Derek Brandeo. We're live on Sportsnet 360, Sportsnet 590, The Fan in Toronto, and streaming always on Sportsnet+. If you miss our show live, you can always get it on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. What's going on, man?
Nothing, man. Sam's here too.
Sam, hello. Yeah, I'm back in my way more comfortable spot. I kind of love it over here.
Chapter 3: What factors influence the Leafs' decision on the first overall pick?
You got the perch.
I just, I hate over there. I hate over there.
Why do you hate over here?
I hate over there. I don't know how to explain it. I hate it. This is my... The 10 feet of difference, it just changes my whole feeling.
See, I feel the same way because I only ever sit here to do my show. So if you asked me to be in another swap, I'd feel thrown off.
Let's try it.
I'd feel totally thrown off. The only thing that sucks is I feel like I'm supposed to lead the show.
Yeah. It's unnatural for me to do it. You definitely are much more of an age hair type.
A lot of questions in the YouTube chat about Kipper interviewing at the Leafs. Because it's now day two of him not around. When we were vague about where he was. He came on looking like he was in a Wendy's drive.
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Chapter 4: Who should the Leafs choose between Gavin McKenna and Ivar Stenberg?
Did you see that clip from our show yesterday of him? He literally had a hat on.
The Britney Spears microphone. Would he have come on if it wasn't for one pick?
I don't know.
No, probably not. Yeah, because I was going to say, one pick changes everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a call you on vacation.
Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What does Craig Berube's job security look like for next season?
It changed a lot of things.
It's like when I took work off, I had a big vacation planned, and then Kawhi arrived in the helicopter, and we all thought he was returning. And I was like, well, I got to go back to work. He's in the helicopter. Like, I got to sit in there. What a fool I was.
What a fool. God. Well, we were pleased that you joined us today. Thank you for the extra. Thanks for having me.
hour of your time and what's really great Leafs talk hasn't had a show in a while no playoffs this normally we've done shows together in May missed those shows those are really I would say almost if you had asked me my favorite things I've done at Sportsnet post Leafs playoff win Leaf talk boy I've said some unhinged things on there
Looking back, looking back, there was some things that you may want to mulligan on. Yeah. Anyways. Those are a lot of fun. They're a lot of fun. Not as fun right now, but I do think it's a perfect opportunity to check in. We haven't actually talked since the Leafs hired John Chyka and Matt Sundin and got the first overall pick.
I think you were like a lot of people with the Chica stuff where initial, I don't want to say, well, no, I will say skepticism.
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Chapter 6: How does Berube's coaching style align with Chayka's analytics approach?
He was curious. There's a lot of what is going on here. And then it happens. Since that happened, has anything changed for you about how you felt about it when you first found out? Do you feel differently now than you did when it was official? Chica's their guy.
No, not really. Okay. Well, I would just say this, like, I'm still pretty skeptical about the hire. Like, and I'm just, where I'm at with it, though, is I'm going to judge the moves that get made from this point forward.
Chapter 7: What must the Leafs do to keep Auston Matthews engaged?
What a healthy way to look at it.
Well, it's just like, what do you do? Because I think that where we kind of get in take culture is that, like, you cement your opinion on a thing and... And this is really how I feel about it. I don't know anything about Scott White. So on paper, the idea that they were going to get somebody from the Dallas organization who was like under Jim Nill, I'm like, all right. That sounds good. Sure.
If you would have told me that they were going to bring in Breezebois, right? Like they were going to get someone who was established or McFarlane from Colorado.
Chapter 8: What are the implications of the Leafs' draft strategy moving forward?
Yeah, clearly I think that there would have been a lot more evidence-based decision-making there and that you could have felt more confident about that idea. But I will just say this, like... I would say in terms of the last time I felt like a major feel about something with the front office, because normally they come in and I'm kind of like, all right, let's see what you do. Yeah. Was Burke.
And when Burke came in, I was like celebrating it with my friends. I was in university. He comes in, he does the truculent speech. And I'm like,
You didn't feel about that with Lou?
No.
Because I'm really excited about Lou.
I wasn't, like, again, for the most part, I don't get overly excited about the unveiling of a front office because it's like all I've ever known with this hockey team is they lose.
But hold, just those guys did something beyond the hockey. Immediately, they changed the culture. Immediately it was a different, we knew they were more aggressive.
I liked year one of Lou and I liked the idea that they were bringing in this like massive brain trust. Right. And they came in there with a much clearer mandate than I think we've seen from anybody since, which was we are going to try and eviscerate blue and white disease. Yeah.
And that sounded so appealing after such a long time where it really did feel like there were... A rampant blue and white disease. Yeah. Yeah. Like just oversized, I would say celebrity status for a lot of different players and malaise that had kind of set in with the franchise, with the organization.
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