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Why the Leafs Chose Jim Hiller

17 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: Why did the Toronto Maple Leafs hire Jim Hiller?

10.831 - 31.007 Nick Kypreos

Think things are slowing down in the National Hockey League? Think again. Yes, the Stanley Cup has been awarded to the Carolina Hurricanes, but that is not stopping. The news around the National Hockey League as we get towards the draft and free agency. It's the real Kipper and Bourne show.

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31.027 - 55.103 Nick Kypreos

We are live on Sportsnet 590, The Fan, 960 in Calgary, 650 in Vancouver, and across various platforms on Sportsnet 360, Sportsnet Plus, and YouTube. where you can find us in a chat with hopefully a thumbs up from our amazing group there. And anywhere else you want to find us.

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Chapter 2: What were the reasons for not choosing Bruce Cassidy as head coach?

55.344 - 82.737 Nick Kypreos

Yeah, we're everywhere. This hour of Real Kipper and Bourne brought to you by Bet365, Nick Kiprios, Justin Bourne, Sammy McKee, Derek Brandeo, Jake the Snake Schultz, and Chris Gallagher. Toronto Maple Leafs have named Jim Hiller their 41st head coach in franchise history. I've lost count of how many coaches were interviewed. But Jim stands the tallest today, JB.

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83.038 - 86.325 Justin Bourne

Yeah. I'm glad to get the news. That's kind of cool.

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Chapter 3: How does Jim Hiller's coaching style align with the Leafs' needs?

87.006 - 105.772 Justin Bourne

I would say that surprising is a name only because we hadn't heard that name. It wasn't one of the ones that came up in the 55 burgers, 55 fries collection of people that they had in. However, you know, we knew that they were looking for someone in this vein. They had apparently tried to hire Peter Laviolette somewhere along the way.

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105.792 - 113.282 Justin Bourne

This is someone with experience, someone who checks a lot of the boxes of what John Shiko would be looking for. So I think it's great.

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113.887 - 116.349 Sam McKee

Go back. I just go to the sportsnet.ca website.

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Chapter 4: What is Jim Hiller's relationship with Auston Matthews?

116.99 - 128.341 Sam McKee

I see the top story by our Justin Bourne, initial thoughts. I see Sportsnet's draft rankings with a picture of Gavin McKenna. I see why the Leafs traded Joseph Wall for a meal. We're back. We're back, dude.

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128.361 - 128.621 Bruno Satin

We're back.

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128.641 - 135.067 Sam McKee

You know, it's like we had to like do the, oh, we cared about the Carolina Hurricanes. Leafs time.

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Chapter 5: What tactical advantages does Hiller bring to the Leafs?

135.087 - 138.651 Sam McKee

We're back, baby.

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138.671 - 142.474 Nick Kypreos

Who cares? Leafs. Oh, our Sammy is back indeed. Yes, thank you for plugging that.

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142.755 - 145.428 Justin Bourne

Oh, you're welcome. And you, my friend. Yeah.

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Chapter 6: What are the latest offseason buzz and trade talks in the NHL?

145.829 - 147.533 Justin Bourne

Your initial thoughts. Yeah.

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148.274 - 164.329 Nick Kypreos

A little underwhelming. Okay. Right? Yep. Not the biggest name, not the sexiest name for the Toronto Maple Leafs. But, you know, there were some thoughts that you're still going to go out there and replace Berube with...

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Chapter 7: How is the NHL investigating Mike Babcock's conduct?

164.815 - 178.574 Nick Kypreos

Cassidy, Patrick Wad, when he became available, like a big, shiny name to fit the platform, right, of the Toronto Maple Leafs. That's not the case here.

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178.995 - 197.266 Justin Bourne

No. No, it's not the case necessarily. You know, I think it's important that they did get someone with NHL head coaching experience, a limited resume in Los Angeles, but he's been in the league since 2014. You know, I think the thing that stands out is his analytics background. He is someone who had an analytics company. Big time.

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Chapter 8: What is the future of Connor Hellebuyck in Winnipeg?

197.366 - 214.712 Justin Bourne

Yeah. You know, that's something that I'm sure in the interviews with Chica and Pelly stood out as, okay, not only does this guy have experience, but he's someone who cares about the data. And I think there was a lot. One thing John Chayka said in the past was that he believes this roster has a latent upside. I believe was this phrase, which means like basically just do normal things.

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214.752 - 217.676 Justin Bourne

You can get back. You should improve with no improvement.

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217.816 - 226.007 Nick Kypreos

You could say that with 32 teams in the National Hockey League. If you get a coach in there, that there's upside on all of it. If you just listen to me more.

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225.987 - 242.825 Justin Bourne

I think the point is that he thinks they underachieve based on what they have. And I do think that if, you know, with Craig Berube out, if you just have a guy who will look at the data and say, oh, this line, when we run Cowan with Nylander and Matthews, we get 64% expected goals. Let's keep them together. I think you're already a step ahead.

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243.566 - 254.117 Sam McKee

Your thoughts, Sammy? Well, you mentioned the word underwhelming, okay? And I thought the same thing. When I woke up this morning and, you know, I was texting you guys what the hell we were going to do today. I'm like, oh, okay, now I know what we're going to do today.

254.578 - 254.678

Yeah.

254.658 - 270.861 Sam McKee

But I think the name, like you said, Jim Hiller, was not in the conversation at all. None of us mentioned Jim Hiller. I didn't see it reported once. It was not mentioned. Like, do you think that the front office potentially did Jim Hiller a disservice with going out there and being like, we have...

270.841 - 289.488 Sam McKee

scoured the world for all the finest candidates and then they just get a guy that nobody had talked about. Like, I think if there's a world where he is part of one of, like, in the conversation and people have kind of prepared themselves, like, I feel like it's underwhelming because they kind of there's big names under promise over to live. I don't know the other way around.

289.628 - 291.751 Sam McKee

It just, you know, the way it was talked about is weird.

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