Dr. Nick Bernthal, Jon's brother and orthopedic oncologist, returns to REAL ONES. This episode covers: Challenges of treating cancer patients and delivering difficult news How personal loss influences life and medical practice Current state of cancer research and drug discovery Balancing a high-pressure career with family life Issues of diversity and access in healthcare and education Recent experiences with crime and community support in Southern California The brothers discuss these topics, offering insights into modern medicine, personal growth, and current social issues. Note: This episode contains discussions of cancer, loss, and medical procedures that some listeners may find sensitive. Support the Real Ones community on Patreon to receive episodes early, ad-free and uncensored. Follow Real Ones: TikTok Instagram YouTube For apparel check out the Real Ones Store.

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