Conservative therapist panel #1
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to the Reality Therapy Podcast, where the truth will set you free.
Welcome to the Reality Therapy Podcast. We have a great lineup of people today talking about what it's like to be a conservative or heterodox therapist in a field that is very progressive. And so I think we should start out with each of you introducing yourselves. Just say your name and like what your license is.
Pamela, you want to go first? Oh, go ahead. Go, Miki. I'm Miki Heller, licensed professional counselor in Texas.
Okay, I'll go next. My name is Pam Garfield Yeager, and I think I'm in the worst crowd. I'm a licensed clinical social worker.
How do conservative therapists perceive political bias in their field?
Excuse me. I can't even say it, right? Maybe that's a sign.
I'm a licensed clinical social worker and I'm in Georgia. I'm Becky Shawless. I'm a licensed professional counselor also in Texas.
Hi, my name is Sarah Nielsen. I'm at LPC and I'm licensed and reside in Alabama. And then I'm licensed in Missouri, Kansas and New Hampshire as well.
Wow.
She's an overachiever.
So thank you all for coming today.
What challenges do conservative therapists face in their practice?
And, you know, kind of wanted to start off just what you notice of the field in terms of political bias. Like, do you see a political bias and what does that look like? Anybody can start off on this one.
Yes. And seen. Go ahead, Pam.
Well, OK, the truth is I'm no longer working in a, you know, in a setting and seeing people day to day to see what people are saying. So a lot of what I see is what's online. So I'll be a little bit honest and I'm not sure what people are saying in real life day to day. What I see online is getting more and more radical in terms of just comments and everyday people and also the institutions and what they post. To me, that's where I look at and I say, if they're promoting those things, then clearly our field is still in the direction of leaning very, very left and not even considering other points of view.
Yeah, I'll kind of piggyback off of Pam.
How does the political climate affect therapy for clients?
I have my own private practice, and I work out of my home. I'm 100% telehealth, so I'm not in other practices and working with other clinicians, so I don't really see or hear a lot of the rigmarole in person. Again, like what Pam said, it's mostly online for me as well, which very radical, very disheartening, very scary what is coming to the clinical world. And, you know, I think for me, the big part is we got to continue to support, you know, more of the conservative movement. right-leaning therapists to be more vocal and come out and speak out because some of the radical left clinicians are doing a lot of harm and doing a lot of damage. And I think it's got to start in the educational system. We got to start there.
And I think our boards need to really get a wake-up call of what a lot of the licensed professionals that are doing what they're doing and practicing how they're practicing. And it needs to be looked at very, very deeply because clients are getting lied to. They're getting, you know, with affirmative care, you know, it's causing more harm than good. And I think it's got to start
What are the implications of gender-affirming care in therapy?
like I said, from the boards, the educational systems, and then there needs to be a lot of ethical, it needs to be looked at and kind of dissect with how some of the radical left clinicians are treating, and I use air quotes because in my opinion, they're not treating, they're harming what they're doing. Again, I see it online more so than in real life because I'm in my home and working by myself. But it's definitely getting worse and it's causing a lot of problems.
I also work from home, Vicki, so in my own practice. But I have actually experienced it with clients who are expecting me to be more affirming. than anything and when i confront something because that's how i i mean i don't i tell people that i will not pull punches like in our first session like if i feel like there's something that goes against what they're selling me they want to work on i'm going to tell them um and when you mean affirming you're not just talking about gender right because i that's what i mean everything yeah people like i have i have i have a couple of
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:53
2
How do conservative therapists perceive political bias in their field?
0:53–1:28
3
What challenges do conservative therapists face in their practice?
1:28–2:45
4
How does the political climate affect therapy for clients?
2:45–4:35
5
What are the implications of gender-affirming care in therapy?
4:35–6:24
6
How do therapists navigate differing political views with clients?
6:24–7:09
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What is the role of therapy in addressing societal issues?
7:09–8:03
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What key messages do conservative therapists want to convey?
8:03–1:21:58