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ShortHand: The Princes in the Tower

09 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What happened to the princes in the Tower of London in 1483?

14.763 - 32.102 Hannah McMorrow

Hello. Hello. Welcome to an episode of Shorthand that I really sincerely hope doesn't have a pedo in it, but I'm not entirely sure because I am not a Ricardian. I hold my hands up. Richard III is not my area of expertise.

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32.162 - 49.945 Sarah O'Connell

Nor mine. Definitely some dead or at least missing kids. Don't know if anyone touched them. I would say they're dead now. Almost certainly. Oh, yes. For sure. Cut down in their youth? Possibly. Let's find out. Are they still in the tower?

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49.965 - 72.188 Hannah McMorrow

I didn't even know that was a possibility. That's where? Which tower did you think they're in? Eh? It's called The Prince is in the Tower. Yeah, but I thought they vanished from there. I think they're still in there. Oh, okay. Let's talk about it. In the summer of 1483, two young royal brothers went into the Tower of London and were never officially seen again.

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73.23 - 94.911 Hannah McMorrow

Legend has it that they were callously murdered by their uncle, the dastardly Richard III, who soared at his own family tree to secure his spot on the throne. But some historians believe a very different story. that the princes survived and even went on to challenge the Tudor rule that followed their uncle's brief and inglorious reign.

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96.293 - 123.928 Hannah McMorrow

Was King Richard III really the moustache-twirling villain history and Shakespeare painted him to be? And with the discovery of suspicious boy-shaped bones years later, could modern science give us the answers historians have been seeking for centuries? on the blood-soaked battlefield of the War of the Roses. The truth is never as clear-cut as it might seem.

125.19 - 127.933 Hannah McMorrow

This is the mysterious and medieval shorthand.

129.676 - 149.215 Sarah O'Connell

The tale of the princes in the tower is one of the biggest he-said-she-said mysteries in English history. So we're going to start with what we know for sure. We've all heard about the War of the Roses, a decade-long beef between the noble houses of York and Lancaster. Loads of people died. It went on for fucking ages. If you've seen Game of Thrones, you basically get the picture.

150.437 - 181.778 Sarah O'Connell

Well, our story starts nearish to the end of this tumultuous period. In 1461, the first ever Yorkist king, Edward IV, rose to the throne after deposing Henry VI. and the House of York was absolutely buzzing to finally have a go at the reins. And Edward IV was taking no chances when it came to securing his royal legacy. He married and had ten kids, with a woman called Elizabeth Woodville.

182.045 - 200.165 Sarah O'Connell

Now, most of the Yorkist elites weren't exactly big fans of Elizabeth, since she was a Lancastrian widow whose family was seen as shameless social climbers who'd switch sides just to get ahead. And it wouldn't actually be the last time they did this, but we'll get to that later.

Chapter 2: What were the theories surrounding the disappearance of Edward V and Richard?

255.381 - 273.748 Sarah O'Connell

She basically takes, and look, I'm not taking away the proverb, but Philippa Gregory is not a historian. Philippa Gregory is a woman who is a very good novelist. And she basically takes like the loose plot of like an Anne Boleyn or an Elizabeth Woodville character. And then she writes very saucy novels based on it. And then they get turned into TV stories.

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274.169 - 277.594 Unknown

And then everyone thinks it really happened. And then everyone thinks that's what actually happened.

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277.574 - 291.476 Sarah O'Connell

And look, I watched The White Queen. It's very compelling, but there's lots of mistakes in it. But Philippa Gregory, I assume, isn't pretending she is a historian. She's like, I'm a novelist. But she's also like, yum, yum, yum, Channel 4 money.

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291.937 - 299.089 Unknown

And Channel 4 are like, yum, yum, yum, viewers. I mean, that's why they have to put dragons in Game of Thrones. So people are like, oh, not actually something that happened.

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Yeah.

301.52 - 326.953 Hannah McMorrow

Also, you were considered an adult once you were 14 in the olden times, medieval times, because of the Catholic Church. That's when you become an adult. That's when you're confirmed, when you're 14. 13, 14. So rather inconveniently for everyone involved, Edward IV unexpectedly popped his clogs after a short illness in April 1483, when his heir, Edward, was only 12.

327.44 - 338.37 Hannah McMorrow

Facing his kingly duties a few years earlier than planned, the future Edward V was going to need wise advisors around him to steady the ship. It's not like they turn 14 and then they have no advisors, by the way.

338.47 - 342.04 Unknown

No, it's not really that different to what would have happened two years later.

343.387 - 358.361 Hannah McMorrow

In the notoriously dog-eat-dog world of medieval politics, finding people who were selflessly interested in looking out for a small boy with not a political motivation of their own. A small boy who's going to be king of England. Sure, sure, sure.

Chapter 3: How did Richard III's actions lead to the princes' fate?

658.152 - 680.524 Sarah O'Connell

Oh, you would be pissed if you were Elizabeth Woodville, wouldn't you? You'd be like, you've done your job to the fucking max. Like your job at the time as a queen or as like a royal lady, get married, have kids, have as many kids as you can. She has 10 fucking kids. And then they're like, nah, they're all bastards. Oh my God, you'd be raging.

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683.267 - 710.566 Hannah McMorrow

And as for the newly illegitimate princes, they stayed in the tower, at least at first. Mancini wrote that they were withdrawn into the inner apartments of the tower proper and day by day began to be seen more rarely behind the bars and windows. until, at length, they ceased to appear altogether. By the autumn of 1483, both brothers had vanished.

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711.967 - 718.234 Hannah McMorrow

And to this day, nobody can state with any certainty what happened to them.

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718.254 - 737.876 Sarah O'Connell

Still, two major theories prevail amongst historians. The first, and I have to say most widely believed theory, is that the boys were killed in the tower, with their murders most likely ordered by King Richard III himself. And it does make sense. You always have to look in a murder mystery who has the most to gain, right?

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738.476 - 756.135 Sarah O'Connell

And if Richard was ambitious enough to jump ahead in the line of succession, why would he risk leaving two little brats alive to challenge that position? That's just very inconvenient. Most accounts of Richard paint him as an ambitious, bloodthirsty and unscrupulous leader who basically killed anyone who stood in his way.

757.178 - 766.792 Sarah O'Connell

Though, in this respect, he honestly wasn't all that different from other kings at the time, because in medieval England, ambition and violence went hand in bloody hand.

768.434 - 786.46 Hannah McMorrow

But even if he did swing the axe at his own nephews in pursuit of power, that wasn't actually enough for Richard to secure total control. His ill-gotten reign was brief and bloody, ending just two years later with his death at the Battle of Bosworth in 1485. My kingdom for a horse, it's that one.

788.043 - 801.327 Hannah McMorrow

Henry Tudor took the throne as King Henry VII and united the houses of York and Lancaster by marrying Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville's daughter, Elizabeth of York. And that is why the Tudor rose is red and white.

801.347 - 823.318 Hannah McMorrow

And ironically enough, since he couldn't marry a bastard, Henry VII had to undo the proclamation his predecessor Richard had made and declare all of those Woodville kids legitimate after all. Oh, phew. So while he'd finally brought an end to the bloody War of the Roses, he actually risked leaving the door wide open to a future challenge from his new bride's brothers.

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