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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello. Hello. Welcome to another short episode.
A very special hello to Graham Hancock.
Hello, Graham, if you're listening. So for a very long time, human history was thought to follow a very specific pattern. We started off as hunter-gatherers, foraging for plants and killing wild animals to survive. Then, slowly but surely, our ancestors started to cultivate crops, farm the land, domesticate animals and build settlements.
And this move from hunter-gatherer to farmer was logical, not only because our ancestors needed to evolve and also develop the ability to work with tools, organise themselves into social groups, produce a surplus of food, etc., but also due to the Earth's climate.
After all, the Stone Age could only come after the end of the Ice Age, when the Earth's temperature rose, the ice subsided, and fertile soil was revealed.
This transition from hunter-gatherer to farmer was always thought to have happened about 10,000 years ago. And it was believed that it then took thousands more years for us humans to begin building large-scale megalithic structures. For example, Stonehenge and the pyramids were both built around the same time, about 5,000 years ago.
Gigantia in modern-day Malta was built, we think, about 6,000 years ago. the walls of Jericho in the Jordan Valley, which was believed to be the world's most ancient monumental structure, was built roughly 9,000 years ago. And all of this makes sense.
You don't start building giant structures until you've nailed farming and social organisation, so basically until you have a large enough population, a surefire endless supply of food, and the necessary specialisation of skills to build things.
So, when Gobekli Tepe was discovered, a colossal, sprawling, highly complex megalithic site built at least 11,600 years ago, and we don't know exactly how old it truly is because so much of it still remains unexcavated, this discovery changed everything we thought we knew about human history. It's so fucking cool, man. I love it so much. So what the hell was going on? Who built this structure?
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Chapter 2: What historical patterns did human civilization follow before Göbekli Tepe?
How? And crucially, why?
This is The Shorthand. So, let's start with the basics. Göbekli Tepe translates to Potbelly Hill in Turkish, because it looked like a fat man lying on his back with his belly in the air. And for thousands of years, it wasn't thought of as much more than that, Fat Man Hill.
It was a moderate-sized hill in the southeastern Anatolia region of Turkey, on which local farmers used to graze their sheep. The truth of what lay beneath people's feet had been lost for generations. But there was something drawing Kurdish people to this pot-bellied hill.
The story goes that there was a single tree which stood on top of the hill, and Kurdish people would go up there at the spring equinox and perform ceremonies. But it wouldn't be until 1994 that the reality of the secrets under that belly were finally revealed to the world.
The first survey of Göbekli Tepe was in 1963 by archaeologists from the University of Chicago, and it was concluded by them that it was probably a series of small cemeteries dating from the Byzantium Empire, with fragments of carved limestone that they spotted being thought to be medieval tombstones. So yeah. Historical, old, but ultimately it was deemed to be of little interest.
It would be three decades before an intrepid German archaeologist called Klaus Schmidt would visit the site. This happened in 1994, and he immediately understood that the flint shards that he felt crunching under his feet had been shaped not by medieval peoples, but by Neolithic hands. And look, I feel like we're throwing a lot of numbers around, right, in this episode.
We're going to continue to do so. I just want to explain. The Romans were like 2,000 years ago, right? And we think of that as old. We think of that as ancient. This is 12,000 years ago we are talking about. Like, that is six times further back in history from us than the Romans were. I don't know what the word for this is. It's beyond ancient.
So that's just, I just want to, you know, contextualize it a little bit. So Schmitt had spent much of the previous decade working at a site called Navali Cori, a nearby settlement from 9,000 BC. There he had seen these T-shaped pillars. And here they were again under Potbelly Hill. And just to be clear, it wasn't excavated, but he can like see the tops of them emerging through the hill.
And he can tell because he's seen them before. If we excavated down, the same pillars would be here. And Schmidt said, quote, within a minute of first seeing it, meaning the T-shaped pillars, I knew I had two choices. Go away and tell nobody or spend the rest of my life working here.
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Chapter 3: How did the discovery of Göbekli Tepe change our understanding of ancient civilizations?
And again, just to cover our arses, there are people who believed that people did live at Quebecly Tepe. It's so hard to know because so much of it remains unexcavated, like we said. I mean, it looks like a temple.
Yes.
I'm like, danger, danger, danger, using these words, like people are going to come for us. Like, I get it. It's so hard for us to know what the right word is to use for this, which is why we're going to use the word site, ceremonial site, maybe even. Yeah, it's really tricky to know what it is because people say, obviously nobody lived here. It wasn't a settlement because there's no rubbish.
There's no, you know, this, that and the other that would indicate a long habitation of this space. But people have also said when they've started excavating further down, though the Turkish government has stopped that, that's a big like, conspiracy theory in and of itself, which we can't get into today. People are saying that there is evidence people lived there.
I'm also like, this would have taken so long to build. Some people must have been living there. But anyway, before we get into the why, why was this so important? Why did they build it? Let's first talk about the what. What does Gobekli Tepe as a structure look like? Now, I'm going to be honest, we are slightly hampered here by being an audio-only format.
And we don't often say this, but I am going to suggest that if you are able to, right now, please give Gobekli Tepe a quick Google image search.
I'll spell it for you. G-O-B-L-E-K-I space T-E-P-E. Thank you. I was trying to spell Gwyneth Paltrow the other day and I couldn't do it.
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Chapter 4: Who were the builders of Göbekli Tepe and what tools did they use?
I hate it. And I just asked producer Alex, I was like, can you just spell it for me? And he spelled it wrong multiple times. And I just turned to him and I was like, Alex, I love you with my whole heart, but I am so dyslexic and you are firing letters at me and I'm going to have a stroke.
No, Google copy and paste is the only way. So yes, hopefully you have an image of Gobekli Tepe in front of you. And if you don't, don't worry, I will explain it the best I can. The site is made up of these circular enclosures of various sizes, layered on top of each other. The bottom layer, obviously, being the oldest.
And that's why we don't know how old it is, because I think it's like, of what has been excavated, almost 50 times that is still under the earth. So if you haven't got to that bottom layer of this big lasagna of pre-ancient whatever, how could we possibly know how old it is? But these enclosures that you see are made up of these standing stones.
And these stones are all in the shape of T's and so are called the T stones or T pillars. And if you look at them, they're very wide across, but also very, very thin to the side. And there are hundreds of them, over 200 make up Gobekli Tepe.
And these tea stones are made from local limestone, which would have been mined maybe just like 100 metres or so away from the site and then dragged into place.
The tea stones around the edge of the enclosure are about a metre or so tall, which would have been difficult to move into the circles that you see in Gobekli Tepe. especially given the level of technology that people would have had at the time. They didn't even have metal yet. But each enclosure also has two very large T-stones at the centre. They're five metres tall. That's huge.
And the stones are incredibly heavy. So yes, it would have been hard to move these stones, but not impossible. And yet again, the much more interesting question is why?
The sight screams of ceremony. I think it's very hard to get away from that fact or that idea, I should say. And so this immediately set those archaeological and historical bells ringing. The very idea that this could be some sort of religious monument built by hunter-gatherers completely goes against everything we thought we knew about religious monuments and about hunter-gatherers.
Until the discovery of Gobekli Tepe, hunter-gatherers were thought to have lacked the sort of complex symbolic systems, social hierarchies, and the division of labor needed to build something like this. Three very important things you need before you can build a giant megalithic ceremonial site like this.
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