Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
Ep 1356 | America Has 37 Years Left — Unless We Make This Change | Seth Gruber
05 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Those who don't know history, including church history, are doomed to repeat it. Seth Gruber is here today. He is the author of Last Stand.
Chapter 2: What is the significance of the year 1973 in American history?
He is the leader of the organization White Rose Resistance, and he has a powerful call for us as Christians today to understand what our legacy is in fighting against the darkness of this age as we are staring in the face of infanticide, abortion, sexual depravity. What is our role in all of this spiritually and politically? This is such an encouraging call to action by Seth.
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Okay, first you have to tell everyone what your shirt is and why you're making this declaration at this time.
that's right yeah june is life month okay it's not uh it's not gay sex month it's not sodomy month it's not rainbow cult month by the way roe v wade got overturned in june which is like just my favorite thing you know um so june is literally life month but not only that people forget um ali that
Chapter 3: How does freedom become a form of slavery?
The overturning of Roe versus Wade on June 24th in the church calendar is the nativity of St. John the Baptist. That's right. Evangelicals, we have a church calendar. It's OK. Let's admit it as evangelicals. We suck at the church calendar. We know more about it. It's not even a Catholic thing. OK, this is a this is a Christian thing to have high holy days and Christian festivals.
And so we know more about like the LGBTQ element of liturgical things. feasts of the religion of humanism these days than we know about our own faith. Well, one of those is the Nativity of St. John the Baptist on every June 24th. It's when Christians celebrate and remember this teenager named Mary going to visit her cousin Elizabeth.
And as they're sipping back on tea, celebrating what God's doing in their individual uteruses, The prenatal John the Baptist starts doing backflips in the uterus because he recognizes the humanity and divinity of his prenatal deity, second member of the Trinity God-man.
But because God had slept together in the womb, Psalm 139, fearfully and wonderfully made, your frame was not hidden from me when you were woven together in the depths of the earth. My eyes saw your unformed substance before any of them came to be.
And so because Fauci told us to follow the science and Jesus is not fully God and fully human from the moment of birth, he's fully God and fully human from the moment of conception.
then that is the creator of the universe who once breathed out the freaking Milky Way in Mary's womb, which meaning that the prenatal deity, second member of the Trinity God man, is knitting the prenatal John the Baptist together in the womb while he's knitting himself together in the womb, while he's knitting himself together in the womb of a woman whose uterus he once knit together when he knit together Mary in the womb of Mary's mother.
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Chapter 4: What actions can individuals take to make a difference?
So the descent of the preborn children gets overturned. In the church calendar on the day where we celebrate two unborn babies, one of whom is God and the Savior. So June is not life month because Seth and Allie tell you so. June is life month because the greatest former fetus who ever existed, who entered human history in a uterus to redeem mankind from their sins, says it is life month.
Oh my goodness. Seth, how in the world do you do that? I just love that that's how we just ran straight into this interview. That was perfect.
Chapter 5: How can we preserve Christian values in modern society?
Okay, tell me, I mean, this is relevant to, yes, that's relevant to what you just said. I mean, there's so much at stake right now, always, but it seems especially in this moment, not only do we have a month celebrating all kinds of sexual depravity, we've got people that are still pushing harder than ever for abortion. We've got the abortion pill that's still circulating.
So we've got tens of thousands of these unborn lives that are still being snuffed out. But at the same time- I see the courage and clarity of Christians like I have not seen in the past decade or so.
I can't speak for all of the generations past, but it seems to me that there are a lot of Christians now who are willing to say, okay, like we've reached the point to where I'm not willing to sit down and sit by and just be comfortable. And you've kind of dubbed this moment the last stand, right?
And even without knowing that you've dubbed this moment, that I think a lot of Christians feel that way. So Tell us, give us the lay of the land. How do you see this moment right now and Christian's role in it?
Yeah, it is a last stand moment, Ali, and I'll get into all of that. But it's not red meat for the base. It's not a Republican talking point. It's easy to, you know, rile people up and do a frenzy, right?
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Chapter 6: What is the Last Stand Festival and its purpose?
That's not difficult to do with, you know, patriots who understand that, like, America seems to be collapsing in on itself. It's not difficult to get people all ticked off or fired up for righteousness, to write your ministry large checks or to come march at a rally. But this is not just like rhetorical assent. This is quite literally a last stand moment.
Neil Ferguson, the celebrated historian, Ali puts it this way. He says, My sense is that history has always been against any republic lasting 250 years. So this American republic is in its last Republican phase. I mean, that's a little bit like scary to think about. Right. And it's also incredible to be alive in this moment, in this 250th year. And by the way, it's OK to celebrate America, guys.
OK, like I am buying this incredible AR-15 shotgun platform. This summer, Ali and me and my wife, we've been working out so that we can I want to wear a red, white and blue wife beater and like dress some scarecrows up as old communists with Tannerite and blow them up. It's OK to love America because that's an extension of your love of family. That's all OK.
But to celebrate America, this 250th, while simultaneously doing nothing to tear down the high places of weird gay sex stuff and baby killing would merely be The decoration of a coffin that we're unwilling to admit we're already carrying. OK, this is literally a last stand moment. And there's this shocking work that was done.
I have the book over there, but I don't want to walk off camera called Sex and Culture by J.D. Unwin.
I think I've mentioned maybe this to you before, Ali, but he's been absolutely buried by the liberal academic left because his findings, his research, his conclusions are a total indictment on secular liberalism and the false promises of the sexual revolution, which if I could summarize the false promises of the sexual revolution, it would be this.
orgasms without responsibility that you can have. You can have orgasms without responsibility. And so he's been totally buried. In fact, I went viral with our friends at CrossPolitik on their show at AmFest, and the reel went out on a two point five million views. And I got met a fact checked. by going through the data, the info I'm about to give your listeners right now, Ali.
And it basically said, fact check, Seth Gruber's wrong. There's no proof that a society that adopts total sexual freedom eventually collapses. There's no evidence of that. And so J.D. Unwin writes this book in 1934. 92 years ago. It's called Sex and Culture. It's a study. It's not very fun reading. It's very dense. And he gives you his research methods, his conclusions.
And he looks at 86 civilizations over a 5,000 year period of time. And he asks the question, what causes civilizations to rise and thrive? And what causes civilizations to decline and fall and be replaced? And he says that there is not one exception to this rule, that civilizations that
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Chapter 7: How does the concept of libido dominandi relate to today's issues?
ticking down to civilizational replacement.
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So is it a last stand moment? Well, when did America embrace total sexual freedom? Okay, that's the question I wanna ask. If there's not an exception to that freaking rule, I think we should try to find a date, Ali, of when America codified and adopted total sexual freedom. And most people ask that question too, and feel free to interrupt me anytime, by the way. They say like, oh,
I mean, the hippies, maybe the flower children in the 60s or something. And that's like, yeah, that probably sounds right. Or maybe Madeline Murray O'Hare removing the Bible and prayer from schools. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're on to it for sure. But I'm trying to get to J.D. Unwin's no exception to this rule codification of total sexual freedom.
And so I think it was 1973 that America began its 90 to 100 year ticking clock. to civilizational suicide and then being replaced by another civilization with greater social energy. And I have three reasons for that. Obviously, you're thinking, OK, Roe v. Wade, your listeners, obviously.
OK, so now in one way, that shouldn't surprise us because there's not a civilization in the history of our of our recorded species that did not exercise ritualistic child sacrifice in some way, shape or form, which should be like pretty shocking. But what what what makes Roe v. Wade shocking to America because we're the most powerful child of the Reformation.
America was birthed by Protestant pastors preaching that resistance to tyranny is obedience to God for a century before 1776, where you had to prove your membership at a Protestant church before you could appear on the ballot to run for public office in several of our early colonies and states. So given our Christian founding, yeah, codifying baby killing,
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Chapter 8: What historical examples illustrate the decline of civilizations?
And we have forgotten that liberty that is untethered to virtue, that is untethered to the knowledge of the authority of the creator who has given us our rights has really actually been our downfall.
And that it's not just the Democrats who openly love baby killing and all of the debauchery that you're talking about, but also on the other side of things, like we have a political party who is just like, well, as long as people are free to do whatever they want, then our Republic will survive. But what you're telling me is that that's not actually the pattern.
It's not democracies and republics survive when they allow people as much freedom as possible in every realm of their lives. It is the societies that first forget that God is the authority of all things, that he has an order that we have to follow and that liberty actually has to flow from that. It can't precede that or else everything then gets disjointed and disordered.
So like, do you see that? Do you see that we also have a challenge as Christians with the Republican Party when it comes to the message that you're conveying?
Well, so, Ali, two years ago, the GOP basically gutted their platform as it came to the life issue and to, like, marriage and sexuality. People forget this. Now, Ali, you know this, but, like, people forget this, how significant that was, that for decades the Republican Party platform— Were they actually fighting for some of the things in the platform?
I'm about to say, OK, we could say probably not, but at least we could hold them accountable based off of the language and commitments in their own platform. That's what I'm saying. Right. There was language in the GOP platform in regards to the sanctity of life to preborn babies that called for the 14th Amendment. protections of babies.
Now, we're about to drop a statement, an equal rights protection statement at White Rose soon. We probably don't have to unpack all of that right now, Ali, but you're a signer. It's going to shock some people, the signers on this. And it's just calling the pro-life movement and the Republican Party back to first principles.
That was in the platform, 14th Amendment protections for the pre-born, which also means if they're a person, then there's consequences for anyone who intentionally kills what is a person. So anyways, we will have that debate some other time.
And I know you've had Bradley Pierce on Great Brother, but the point is they gutted their language that allowed us to hold them accountable on the civilizational issues that matter the most. The babies, the family, sexuality. And why did that happen?
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