Authenticity Is Authority: How to Build Real Influence with Jen Gottieb

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What does Jen Gottlieb's early career reveal about authenticity?

Jen Gottlieb 0:00
Everybody, even the biggest rock stars in the world have imposter syndrome because even the biggest people that perform for years and years in front of millions of people would come backstage and they would be so nervous to go on and be interviewed. And they would come backstage and they would say to me, did I do okay? Was that good enough? I'm like, dude, you're slash. Are you asking me if you were good enough? Are you kidding? So it was a really nice reminder to me that people are people are people. And like every time I get nervous or I feel like an imposter or I feel not good enough, everybody experiences that it's a human condition.
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Ryan Alford 0:53
Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of The Rad. What's up, Jen? What's up, Brian? I'm super excited to be here. Media's changed so much. TV's changed. and distractions and where media is on the smartphone and on social media, but reflect on those VH1 days.
Jen Gottlieb 1:21
The VH1 thing really happened on accident. I was an actress. I studied musical theater in college, and then I dropped out of college. I moved to New York City to study musical theater at a two-year conservatory program. Immediately after studying at the school that I was at called the American Musical and Dramatic Academy, I booked my dream role in the Broadway National Tour of The Wedding Singer. I played Linda the bitch that leaves Robbie Hart at the altar. In the show, she's this Lita Ford wannabe rock star. She looks like a combination of Joan Jett and 80s Madonna like a virgin. She's just this hilarious wannabe rock star chick. I was on the road playing this character for a year and I get back from doing that and I see this audition for a sexy rocker chick.
Jen Gottlieb 2:01
And I'm like, oh, I could play that part. I could play that character. I know nothing about heavy metal music. I know nothing about rock and roll, but I'm like, this is a gig. I'm an actress. I can go get this. I'm going to go land this. I needed a job. The night before the audition, I Googled everything there was to know about heavy metal, learning all the band names. I go in pretty much. I felt like I bombed the audition because I kind of forgot all the things that I was memorizing. They're like, what kind of music do you like? I like everything from Beyonce to black Sabbath. They could probably tell that I didn't know what the hell I was talking about. At the end of the audition, they're like, oh, Jen, I noticed at the bottom of your resume, it says that you do a great Britney Spears impersonation.
Jen Gottlieb 2:36
So I'm like, yeah, okay, I do. They're like, can we see your Britney? And so I do my Britney Spears impersonation. They're all laughing hysterically. It's like an uproar. Everyone finally is alive after being kind of bored with me because I didn't know what I was talking about. They call me two weeks later and they're like, we want you to be Miss Box of Junk on that metal show. And I'm like, really? They're like, yes, you made everyone laugh. Your Britney Spears imitation got you the role. That was the first moment in time when I learned that being my most authentic self is always what's going to get people to lean in and pay attention. It wasn't that I knew everything about heavy metal music. It was when I finally let myself shine that actually got me the gig.
Jen Gottlieb 3:14
I get this gig by being myself, ironically, but I immediately reverted to, I have to play this version of myself that wasn't me. I had to become heavy metal Jen. I wore super tight spandex pants and I cut up all these rocker shirts and I pretended I like heavy metal music, even though I didn't. And before I knew it, I had this big audience of all these metal guys that thought I was like this metal girl. I had built this brand that was a lie.

How does rejection contribute to resilience and confidence?

Jen Gottlieb 3:37
I got to meet all these huge rock stars.

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