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Right About Now - Legendary Business Advice

Authenticity Is Authority: How to Build Real Influence with Jen Gottieb

17 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What does Jen Gottlieb's early career reveal about authenticity?

0.031 - 18.494 Jen Gottlieb

Everybody, even the biggest rock stars in the world have imposter syndrome because even the biggest people that perform for years and years in front of millions of people would come backstage and they would be so nervous to go on and be interviewed. And they would come backstage and they would say to me, did I do okay? Was that good enough? I'm like, dude, you're slash.

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18.935 - 29.228 Jen Gottlieb

Are you asking me if you were good enough? Are you kidding? So it was a really nice reminder to me that people are people are people. And like every time I get nervous or I feel like an imposter or I feel not good enough, everybody experiences that it's a human condition.

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This is Right About Now with Ryan Alford, a Radcast Network production. We are the number one business show on the planet with over 1 million downloads a month. Taking the BS out of business for over six years and over 400 episodes. You ready to start snapping necks and cashing checks? Well, it starts right about now.

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53.191 - 81.216 Ryan Alford

Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to the latest edition of The Rad. What's up, Jen? What's up, Brian? I'm super excited to be here. Media's changed so much. TV's changed. and distractions and where media is on the smartphone and on social media, but reflect on those VH1 days.

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81.296 - 100.744 Jen Gottlieb

The VH1 thing really happened on accident. I was an actress. I studied musical theater in college, and then I dropped out of college. I moved to New York City to study musical theater at a two-year conservatory program. Immediately after studying at the school that I was at called the American Musical and Dramatic Academy, I booked my dream role in the Broadway National Tour of The Wedding Singer.

100.724 - 121.236 Jen Gottlieb

I played Linda the bitch that leaves Robbie Hart at the altar. In the show, she's this Lita Ford wannabe rock star. She looks like a combination of Joan Jett and 80s Madonna like a virgin. She's just this hilarious wannabe rock star chick. I was on the road playing this character for a year and I get back from doing that and I see this audition for a sexy rocker chick.

121.256 - 137.606 Jen Gottlieb

And I'm like, oh, I could play that part. I could play that character. I know nothing about heavy metal music. I know nothing about rock and roll, but I'm like, this is a gig. I'm an actress. I can go get this. I'm going to go land this. I needed a job. The night before the audition, I Googled everything there was to know about heavy metal, learning all the band names. I go in pretty much.

137.846 - 150.21 Jen Gottlieb

I felt like I bombed the audition because I kind of forgot all the things that I was memorizing. They're like, what kind of music do you like? I like everything from Beyonce to black Sabbath. They could probably tell that I didn't know what the hell I was talking about.

150.37 - 165.736 Jen Gottlieb

At the end of the audition, they're like, oh, Jen, I noticed at the bottom of your resume, it says that you do a great Britney Spears impersonation. So I'm like, yeah, okay, I do. They're like, can we see your Britney? And so I do my Britney Spears impersonation. They're all laughing hysterically. It's like an uproar.

Chapter 2: How does rejection contribute to resilience and confidence?

217.611 - 236.469 Jen Gottlieb

I got to meet all these huge rock stars. One thing that I learned about people from this experience is that everybody, even the biggest rock stars in the world have imposter syndrome because even the biggest people that perform for years and years in front of millions of people would come backstage and they would be so nervous to go on and be interviewed.

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236.49 - 252.13 Jen Gottlieb

And they would come backstage and they would say to me, did I do okay? Was that good enough? I'm like, dude, you're slash. Are you asking me if you were good enough? Are you kidding? So it was a really nice reminder to me that people are people are people. And like every time I get nervous or I feel like an imposter or I feel not good enough, everybody experiences that it's a human condition.

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252.31 - 268.954 Jen Gottlieb

I lost myself along the way because I was playing a fake version of myself that couldn't have been further from who I really was. And when the show ended, I had to reinvent myself and start showing the world who I am. And that was a big lesson in a lot of ways, but I'm really grateful for the time. It was fun. And it gives me a really amazing story to tell.

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that we all end up doing exactly what we plan to do. Everything looks so planned and so coordinated. You being on that show and being the rocker chick and doing all those things, all that. But behind all that veil was, here's a girl who has these aspirations and dreams and trying to make the most of it. And it's not exactly who she is.

343.936 - 357.397 Ryan Alford

From the outside looking in though, it probably looked like you had everything going for you. Everything was perfect. No one would have known that story or that instance at the time. And I think people can take from that. Everybody's an original. People have such a hard damn time living to that.

357.518 - 372.702 Jen Gottlieb

Don't compare your real life to somebody else's highlight reel on social media. Because while it looked like I was living the life and like all these photos with all these rock stars, I was really out of alignment. I was really lost. I was really depressed during that time because I was living a lie. And I was like having an argument, internal argument with myself all the time. Who am I?

Chapter 3: What is the difference between rented credibility and owned credibility?

468.16 - 476.198 Jen Gottlieb

And I was just, there's nothing better than this. This is what I want to do for the rest of my life. Sometimes it's what you want, but sometimes it's so much better than you could have even imagined.

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476.338 - 493.737 Jen Gottlieb

Because what I always thought, and even throughout my entire young adulthood auditioning for musicals, I thought that my future was going to be singing other people's songs, reading other people's lines, being in a show where I auditioned and waited for someone to pick me. And that were, you know, being on television where I recited lines and played a part.

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493.897 - 507.155 Jen Gottlieb

I didn't allow myself to really expand and say, well, maybe there's a different way to perform. form. And I remember when I quit acting and I started building my business, my parents said, Jen, are you sure you want to quit your dream? I'm like, you guys, I'm not quitting my dream. I know for sure that I'll end up back on stage.

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507.236 - 523.82 Jen Gottlieb

I don't know how, I don't know in what capacity, but I'm going to end up back on stage. And now that I'm a motivational speaker and I speak for a living and I teach and I get to use my own words and I get to pick myself instead of waiting for someone else to pick me. And I'm on stage having those same moments that I had when I was a kid, but it's so much better and so much different.

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523.84 - 542.312 Jen Gottlieb

I get to help people. It's so freaking cool. But I could have never envisioned that when I was stuck in looking just inside the box of what it should be being an actress. I didn't allow myself to expand. And now that I look backwards, when I connect the dots, I'm like, oh, wow, it was what I wanted, but it's so much better than I could have ever imagined then.

545.144 - 564.733 Ryan Alford

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603.133 - 616.166 Ryan Alford

Start your website today. What framed your business perspective? You're a singer, actress, multi-talented, attractive. What do you felt like molded you as the business person?

616.186 - 629.286 Jen Gottlieb

It was really a lot of getting heard no. I think that one of the most powerful tools that a successful entrepreneur can have is resiliency and the ability to be persistent even when you're getting heard no and you're getting rejected.

Chapter 4: What is Jen's CIA framework for building influence?

742.311 - 757.01 Jen Gottlieb

I'm pissed. I'm going to grieve for the next hour or I'm going to go, you know, for the rest of the day, I can be pissed off. But once I'm done being pissed off, I'm going to reflect and see what did I learn from this failure or this fuck up or this no or this rejection. I'm going to move forward with a new plan. Give yourself a container.

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757.07 - 774.322 Jen Gottlieb

The biggest mistake is that people are upset forever or they hold onto it or they hold resentment. That's like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies. If you hold resentment towards somebody else, it's only hurting you. You got to let go and you got to move on. So take your moment, be upset, then be like, okay, I'm done. This is my container. I'm over the container.

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774.563 - 778.41 Jen Gottlieb

And now I'm moving forward, looking at what I learned and how am I going to turn this no into a yes.

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784.533 - 789.719 Ryan Alford

Talk to me about your journey into PR and leading up to what you guys are doing for people.

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789.759 - 801.653 Jen Gottlieb

My whole That Metal Show portion of my life ended. It ended with a big bang. In one week's time, the guy that I thought I was going to marry broke up with me, kicked me out of the apartment because he was cheating on me with one of our friends. And my show got canceled.

801.793 - 818.414 Jen Gottlieb

And so I went from living in this multimillion dollar apartment on the Upper West Side to living in a tiny little bedroom with a window that faced a brick wall with six other actors in an apartment. I was staring out at that brick wall and I'm like, one day I will know why this happened. And that's all I could say. I decided in that moment that I wanted to be an entrepreneur.

818.434 - 835.279 Jen Gottlieb

I wanted to build a business. I didn't want to wait for somebody to pick me anymore. I wanted to choose myself. I was really into fitness. I was really into light, like healthy living. And I knew how to work out as an actress, like as a performer, I was really good at that. And I always wanted to train people. So I was like, being a trainer is a great gig because I can still act.

835.259 - 852.011 Jen Gottlieb

And I could like make my own schedule. It's kind of like being an entrepreneur. So that was the first business that I decided to build. And I needed to rebrand myself because everybody knew me as this heavy metal chick. I was, that's who I was. I had to do a lot of rebranding and a lot of repositioning and a lot of changing the narrative.

852.031 - 867.719 Jen Gottlieb

I didn't really know anything about business or marketing, but I knew a hell of a lot about PR. I had a lot of relationships. I had a lot of people that I knew that knew a lot about that. So I started getting featured in the media as a fitness girl, telling the story about how I went from being on that metal show to now helping people transform their bodies and their lives.

Chapter 5: Why is visibility considered a responsibility in helping others?

941.721 - 958.183 Ryan Alford

You nailed it. You learned your skill and you honed your craft and then you re-deconstructed and engineered it into a business and doing it for others. You couldn't be more right about who owns the relationships and how relationships with media and the way that you guys frame that it's so important for people.

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958.403 - 966.553 Ryan Alford

I love how you're training people to build the relationships and do it for themselves on some level, but also just building those true connections one-to-one.

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966.674 - 983.295 Jen Gottlieb

We noticed that our mastermind members and the people that we were teaching were actually getting better results because they weren't renting the relationships. They weren't renting the information. They owned the information and they owned the relationships and they knew how to do it themselves. And that is real equity in yourself and in your company.

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983.315 - 996.913 Jen Gottlieb

When you know how to pitch and you have the people in your Rolodex to pitch to now you've got the power. And so these people that we're helping own that power, they own that equity, they own that knowledge and they're getting unbelievable results. And we're like, you know what? This is what we're passionate about.

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996.933 - 1009.626 Jen Gottlieb

Not only are they getting amazing results, but they're also transforming their lives and lives with their families and their mindsets and their confidence levels. We're like, what if we took all of our energy and we took it away from the agency and we put it into our events and our trainings and our teachings and our masterminds.

1009.987 - 1021.757 Jen Gottlieb

And we sold the agency that was actually taking a very profitable arm of our company and getting rid of it. And many people would say, don't fix what's not broken, like leave it alone. It's, you know, running. And we're like, this doesn't fill our cup.

1021.777 - 1032.967 Ryan Alford

It doesn't make us happy. I like it. It's tough, but I respect the hell out of it. Talk to me about where am I getting up with you, Jim? Where can we find all the deeds and everything that's important? I get involved with everything you got going on?

1033.087 - 1042.801 Jen Gottlieb

Just go to my Instagram. Everything's there on my link tree. You can find everything. You can find my podcast. You can find my website. You can find how you can work with Super Connector Media at Jen underscore Gottlieb.

1043.001 - 1050.672 Ryan Alford

Search for Jen Gottlieb. You'll find all the highlight clips from today, plus the full episode. You know where to find me at Ryan Offerman on all the platforms. We'll see you next time.

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