Chapter 1: What was Lilly Pulitzer's early life like in Palm Beach?
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So Rami's imagine this it's 1960 and you're standing in the middle of Palm beach, Florida, a place where the richest people in America are pretending to be very normal. Everyone is tan. Everyone is married to someone important and every woman is dressed exactly the same. Until one woman shows up, looking like a walking cocktail.
She's wearing colors that do not exist in nature, a dress that does not require a girdle, and she looks wildly inappropriate for a country club. Which is exactly why everyone could not stop staring. This is Lily Pulitzer. I have the fucking chills. She is our girl. I just like had a moment...
but a dream you could say where I was just like, let's like, I feel like she's really preppy and you know, like sorority girls are obsessed with her. She was kind of big in the fifties and sixties. And then during research, I was like, there's so much connection to Jackie Kennedy and royalty. And I was like, she's so ram coded and let's cover her. Let's do it.
I'm so excited because I think I will be surprised by the end of this episode because I have my preconceived notions about who she is because of what her legacy has kind of become. Well, what are your preconceived notions? Well, with Love and Light, like, I do imagine, like, very basic sorority girlies that are, like, prim and proper and probably with, like, not vibe with Ram.
And that's putting women in a box, right?
Look, I got some Lilly Pulitzer folders and pencils, I think, when I was a, because I was like, it's not my style for the clothing. But I was like, I will get some of the accessories. And she did, I mean, there were so many sorority accessories, like for every chapter, for every, it was crazy.
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Chapter 2: How did Lilly Pulitzer's designs challenge 1950s fashion norms?
Okay, so Lily Jr., Lily Jr., you could say. We love when this happens. I know, it is so cute. So her great-grandfather was this guy named Jabez A. Boswick, who was a Standard Oil partner. And we are talking...
like he was one of the original american oil tycoons he was a founding partner of standard oil do you have chills i literally have the chills i literally have the chills test oh my god i'm in wow full body chills no there is just something about this time where like you know if you're wealthy it's a very chic time if you're well you know if you're wealthy and white you're probably just sailing on through the 50s and 60s without a care in the world
Wealthy white and a man, like what problems do you have?
Very privileged.
And they're doing just fine. And it's obviously just like, it's just fun to hear stories about this because we just talk about so much struggle in history. So sometimes it's nice to like just take a break because we don't live in that world to be like, wow.
A hundred percent. Yeah. We have to sometimes do episodes where you're just like, everything went perfectly right.
Yeah.
It's just nice. And this woman was just drinking and living her best life, which all of us can wish for that and hopefully get that. I agree. So you know John D. Rockefeller? Yes. So he was the face of Standard Oil, and her great-grandfather was the brains and bankrolls behind it.
He was a bankrolls behind it. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
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Chapter 3: What influence did Jackie Kennedy have on Lilly Pulitzer's brand?
She has the fucking chills. Sylvia Plath, Rachel Lambert Mellon, who was a billionaire philanthropist, the daughters of Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Morgan, and Boswick families all went to this school.
I didn't realize Sylvia Plath was rich.
I've tried to get into Sylvia Plath before, and then sometimes I'm like, I get overwhelmed, but we should cover.
We definitely should cover. Is the H silent? In what? Sylvia Platt. Is it Platt? Oh, is it? Or Platt? I don't know. We will do an episode on her. I read the bell jar once.
We will discover soon how to pronounce her last name.
Yeah, I'm so sorry, you guys.
it was plath but you know i don't know it very well could be one of us is right and that's great exactly that's why there's two of us yeah exactly um so this school was like on another level of course it was like one of the most famous and powerful girls schools in american history i saw this quote that was like it was the ivy league for girls before women were allowed into ivy leagues
And it wasn't just a prep school. It was essentially a finishing school for future queens of money, politics, and culture.
So was it training these women to be like the wives? It wasn't like... educating, making sure they have a huge education to run a company. It was like to run a household basically.
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Chapter 4: How did Lilly Pulitzer's personal struggles shape her fashion career?
Like, it's nice. Like, we're by the beach. Like, we're drinking, like, Miami Vices, whatever the fuck we're doing. And they were like, let's get pregnant and have a kid and just, like, start being a little, like, all-American dream.
So they're living there full time?
They're living there full time.
Okay. Got it. Got it.
And a quote from her business partner, this guy, his last name is Stolman. We'll figure out his first name soon. I did not write down his first name, but he worked with her for a long time in the brand. He said this about her, quote, she was a very, very good mother. Because she was born into wealth, she had the luxury of being eccentric.
She didn't have the typical worries that a lot of people have of paying a mortgage, but she was also very sensitive to inequality.
Well, the sensitive to inequality is huge. I mean, it's just so true. I know people say that money can't buy you happiness, but it really can help.
Absolutely. What were we talking about? Oh, George Clooney the other day and Amal being like, what do they fight about? And it's like, of course they fight, but they're probably fighting a lot less than most couples that have been together that long.
Financial stress is... I mean, yeah, it just puts so much stress on you.
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